4th year in a row...

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Since you are "close" to the situation - allegedly -
Did Cignetti or his camp reach out to MSU?? How many SEC schools took any interest in him? IUP to Elon to JMU is not a typical path for any SEC HC - regardless of how much they won there.

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It is hard to say how many SEC schools would have taken an interest in hiring because outside Bama we were the only team hiring after his undefeated season at JMU. A team that recently jumped from FCS and won the Sun Belt with a talent deficiency even for sunbelt standards. I am not saying at the time he had the resume for Bama, but he certainly did for the mid tier SEC schools. He had much more head coaching experience than Lebby who had none. Whether Cignetti actively reached out to us is something I would need to ask my family to ask Frank Cignetti Jr when they see him at the IUP/Slippery Rock game in mid January, but Selmon did 100% not reach out or have him on his radar

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Since you are "close" to the situation - allegedly -
Did Cignetti or his camp reach out to MSU?? How many SEC schools took any interest in him? IUP to Elon to JMU is not a typical path for any SEC HC - regardless of how much they won there.

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The real question is how good of a coach is he without Mark Cuban’s money backing up the program. That is what paint PXG is leaving out of his rants.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

The real question is how good of a coach is he without Mark Cuban’s money backing up the program. That is what paint PXG is leaving out of his rants.

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He did not need a lot of money to achieve having the #72 composite rankings. He is winning with a huge talent deficiency.

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

He did not need a lot of money to achieve having the #72 composite rankings. He is winning with a huge talent deficiency.

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Bullshat. Nobody is capable of that and you know it. That’s just high school, I have watched them and they have players. I really don’t even understand your ranting anyway. Unless you are just another one buying the BS the fanboys are feeding why is this an issue for us. Who cares. We have own issues and are still digging out of a hole left by a bunch of clown boosters. But hey raising hell about hypothetical BS is the Missippy Tate way.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Bullshat. Nobody is capable of that and you know it. That?s just high school, I have watched them and they have players. I really don?t even understand your ranting anyway. Unless you are just another one buying the BS the fanboys are feeding why is this an issue for us. Who cares. We have own issues and are still digging out of a hole left by a bunch of clown boosters. But hey raising hell about hypothetical BS is the Missippy Tate way.

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It is not really a rant I was just making a statement. Selmon made a huge mistake not hiring Cignetti or interviewing him. If he made the right hire, we would not be in this situation right now. That is the point I was making. We can put it to bed now. Here is the link to the composite 2025 rankings though so you can see for yourself.

https://247sports.com/Season/2025-Fo...lentComposite/

I don’t care about hypothetical, the guy can definitely coach would love to him here but he isn’t.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

I don’t care about hypothetical, the guy can definitely coach would love to him here but he isn’t.

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I was just making a point how if Selmon made the right hire when he had the chance the fanbase would be united instead of divided and it would have us all pulling in the right direction.

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

It is not really a rant I was just making a statement. Selmon made a huge mistake not hiring Cignetti or interviewing him. If he made the right hire, we would not be in this situation right now. That is the point I was making. We can put it to bed now. Here is the link to the composite 2025 rankings though so you can see for yourself.

https://247sports.com/Season/2025-Fo...lentComposite/

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Hindsight is 20/20. Do I wish we would've interviewed Cig? Absolutely. Do I think Selmon wishes he would've interviewed Cig? Absolutely. But IUP->JMU->SEC is not a traditional path. We would've been taking a massive risk on him. Conventional wisdom is that you always hire someone with SEC experience. Now Cig had that experience but it was from 14 years ago. The landscape is night and day from where it was in 2011 when he left Bama. We hired the guy who had, for lack of a better term, run a program inside this state in the transfer portal and NIL era. This is a fact that has been confirmed by mutliple outlets that Lebby was running the OM program from Jan 2, 2021 to sometime in mid July of 2021. He also ran it from April 2020-August 2020. We also would not have had the NIL capabilities to bring his JMU team to Mississippi State like Indiana was able to do. That would've been another issue.

I do agree though that we should've hired Cignetti. He'd probably be at a blue blood, but we'd have been better for 2 years.

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

I was just making a point how if Selmon made the right hire when he had the chance the fanbase would be united instead of divided and it would have us all pulling in the right direction.

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Mississippi State fans have never pulled in the same direction. Even under the highest of highs with Mullen, people weren't pulling in the same direction. We could be 13-0 with Cignetti leading us in the playoffs and people would be complaining that we don't have a home playoff game and the playoff tickets are too expensive.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Mississippi State fans have never pulled in the same direction. Even under the highest of highs with Mullen, people weren't pulling in the same direction. We could be 13-0 with Cignetti leading us in the playoffs and people would be complaining that we don't have a home playoff game and the playoff tickets are too expensive.

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^This is an absolute GD truth.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

Y'all have to understand, most of his posts these days have a "negative to State" vibe. He's planting the seed that KT will transfer and win a Heisman. That's his angle.

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C34 must be just ?peachy? to be around in person. Pun intended.

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Originally Posted by SPMT

C34 must be just ?peachy? to be around in person. Pun intended.

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Hahaha!!! I see what you did there!

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Originally Posted by Coach34

100% what I'm alluding to. He'll never win it here at 6-6. And if he does have a great season- he will get bought away

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Most of the time I would agree with this, but this kid is from down the road and his uncle was our quarterback and he wants to be here. If he is truly good enough to win the heisman and shows that ability next year I think our boosters will step up to the point that he will feel comfortable that we are giving him a chance even if we truly aren’t giving him a real chance. He loves Lebby and players good enough to win that type of award will motivate our boosters to step up if they see a real opportunity to succeed. Our big boosters are always in show me mode before they commit in football. If he shows them they will turn into ole Miss for the time he is here. Or maybe you are right and he will leave because we are cheap. I hope he is good enough that we get to find out either way.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Most of the time I would agree with this, but this kid is from down the road and his uncle was our quarterback and he wants to be here. If he is truly good enough to win the heisman and shows that ability next year I think our boosters will step up to the point that he will feel comfortable that we are giving him a chance even if we truly aren’t giving him a real chance. He loves Lebby and players good enough to win that type of award will motivate our boosters to step up if they see a real opportunity to succeed. Our big boosters are always in show me mode before they commit in football. If he shows them they will turn into ole Miss for the time he is here. Or maybe you are right and he will leave because we are cheap. I hope he is good enough that we get to find out either way.

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Kamario will not leave as long as Lebby is here.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Kamario will not leave as long as Lebby is here.

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Maybe not- but until he has to turn down LSU/Oregon/Ohio St/Texas- etc- we shall see.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Kamario will not leave as long as Lebby is here.

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I agree with you. I actually sat down with his family after the spring game this year at the landing and had a meal / drinks with them and the strength coach (I don’t know them it was just a random encounter). They love it here and they love Lebby. You can tell it’s not just them saying it and they really do. I don’t see him leaving unless something crazy happens / Lebby leaves, but it is the portal era. I just think this situation would a not a normal one in this era and we are good there for now at least.

We can?t really worry too much about what happens with KT in the future. If he is getting offers from big time programs that means he most likely has a successful year and we win a lot of games.

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

We can?t really worry too much about what happens with KT in the future. If he is getting offers from big time programs that means he most likely has a successful year and we win a lot of games.

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agree with this also. Double edged sword

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

We can?t really worry too much about what happens with KT in the future. If he is getting offers from big time programs that means he most likely has a successful year and we win a lot of games.

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Yea I would love to have to worry about losing a Heisman caliber quarterback rather than a coaching search because we suck. Give me those first world problems every year instead of this horseshit.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Yea I would love to have to worry about losing a Heisman caliber quarterback rather than a coaching search because we suck. Give me those first world problems every year instead of this horseshit.

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But this is what you are missing- KT could have a great year and we still go 5-7. Then we are facing bidders for him while trying to decide if we need to make a coaching change. That is what we are looking at this Fall.