The one major thing that sticks in my crawl about Lebby is that he refuses to

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Originally Posted by ScooterDog

I think what 99jc is saying is that lebby should have played him a Little More all along just to give him a little more playing time experience. That I agree with.

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That I don't disagree with. I think there were ways to get him more involved earlier in the season that we didn't take advantage of.

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Originally Posted by ScooterDog

I think what 99jc is saying is that lebby should have played him a Little More all along just to give him a little more playing time experience. That I agree with.

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No, 99 clearly stated a lot more which included losing more games because we just ride with the true freshman experiment. September KT was not November KT. January KT is going to even better which will lead more people to think we had Patrick Mahommes on the bench and Lebby is just a dumb ass. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Should KT have taken more snaps? Yes, but not to the detriment of the team. Hell if we had a better defense that got more stops then you could roll with KT in different situations.

Definition of CRAW: a pouch in many birds and some lower animals that resembles a stomach for storage and preliminary maceration of food.

getting a stick stuck in your crawl sounds wild but, I never knew a person had such a pouch. I guess they must be part bird or something.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

Acknowledge he should have played KT a lot more this season and it probably cost us 2-3 wins. and i don't want to hear any Bullshit about how he wasn't ready. The only way to get ready is to play. Sitting your ASS ON THE BENCH never gets you ready. Sharpen was a sack magnet all season. I just hope he learned his lesson and quits being hard-headed and plays the best players. The loyalty angle is for a loser's mentality. Can you ever imagine Nick Saban ever resorting to loyalty over common sense. Come on Lebby grow a nut sack and be a real head coach.

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What does that make KT? If Shapen was a SACK MAGNEt, and KT was sacked at the same rate, what does that say?

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Originally Posted by Pinto

Lebby never admits to mistakes. Just part of who he is as a coach.

Name one play he says was a bad call or one game decision he says was a bad one. It is always the play was there we just didn?t execute it properly or some other excuse.

This is my biggest dislike of him as a coach. Just say you 17ed up every once in a while. All coaches 17 up every once in a while.

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Then you would have hated having Saban as a HC

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Originally Posted by 99jc

WRONG!!!! We pay his salary and many of us donate a lot of money to the football program! He damn sure owes an explanation! and he should have played KT a lot earlier that can't be disputed I just want the fat ass to admit it!

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It has been disputed and is disputed. Facts are facts and facts do not care about opinions not emotions. KT was sacked at the same rate as Shapen. KT completed less than 50% in his start after a complete YEAR to be ready. He was injured in his first start too.

Those are the facts.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

WRONG!!!! We pay his salary and many of us donate a lot of money to the football program! He damn sure owes an explanation! and he should have played KT a lot earlier that can't be disputed I just want the fat ass to admit it!

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What an entitled comment.

Lebby shouldn't apologize for putting the best player on the field. KT wasn't ready for most of the year. Not 100% sure you could say he is ready after watching the Egg Bowl.

KT is a great athlete but right now for this year Shapen was the better quarterback.

This isn't high school football where you stick your best athlete at QB and then just let him riff. That works against Winona HS but not against Alabama, Georgia, Texas, etc.

I remember one pass for a td early on (probably Arky) that it almost gave the defender a heart attack he was so surprised. Went off his hands for a TD, terrible pass but it scored. KT is young, YUGE Chris Relf upside but let?s not forget he was a work in progress early in the year. I hope nothing but greatness for KT and Lebby. Go DOGS

Sure about that?

LSU Loss (2022): Stated, "I'm responsible for all this stuff, so if we didn't do it right, that's on me," after his defense allowed a second-half comeback.

National Championship Loss (2019): Blamed himself for calling a failed fake field goal against Clemson, calling it a "bad call".

Feel free to apologize for your bad post.***

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

Then you would have hated having Saban as a HC

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Originally Posted by Pinto

Sure about that?

LSU Loss (2022): Stated, "I'm responsible for all this stuff, so if we didn't do it right, that's on me," after his defense allowed a second-half comeback.

National Championship Loss (2019): Blamed himself for calling a failed fake field goal against Clemson, calling it a "bad call".

Feel free to apologize for your bad post.***

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Are you under the impression that Lebby has not made those types of comments?

"That was incredibly conservative, not wanting to give the football back to them. It's not who I am. That's the one I'm going to hang onto and learn from more than anything" TX game

He admitted in post-game reflections that he needed to "coach better". FL

“We got our ass beat and it’s very frustrating. I got to do better. I got to coach better. I got to get done what we need to get done so at the end of the game we’re plus one. And that’s the bottom line.” Tn

If that's what we are talking about, then there it is and you can verify those comments by a simple search.

Saban frequently blames losses on a lack of execution, calling it "shooting ourselves in the foot," vs Mi

He noted "too many turnovers, penalties, mental errors on defense, sacks" as issues that needed fixing, emphasizing consistency vs TX

2019 Loss to Auburn: He lamented the team's lack of discipline and execution, saying they put themselves in a lot of bad situations with too many penalties.
2017 National Championship Loss to Clemson: Saban explicitly blamed the loss on a lack of execution, stating, "We didn't block them... We didn't execute very well".

Thanks for proving me right, and showing not once by Lebby for a play call.

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Originally Posted by Pinto

Lebby never admits to mistakes. Just part of who he is as a coach.

Name one play he says was a bad call or one game decision he says was a bad one. It is always the play was there we just didn?t execute it properly or some other excuse.

This is my biggest dislike of him as a coach. Just say you 17ed up every once in a while. All coaches 17 up every once in a while.

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Yep, he even thought the play call at the end of the Florida game was great even though we were already in very makeable FG range. He just isn't going to ever second guess anything publicly.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

WRONG!!!! We pay his salary and many of us donate a lot of money to the football program! He damn sure owes an explanation! and he should have played KT a lot earlier that can't be disputed I just want the fat ass to admit it!

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It can be disputed.

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Originally Posted by 1eyedog

I remember one pass for a td early on (probably Arky) that it almost gave the defender a heart attack he was so surprised. Went off his hands for a TD, terrible pass but it scored. KT is young, YUGE Chris Relf upside but let?s not forget he was a work in progress early in the year. I hope nothing but greatness for KT and Lebby. Go DOGS

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Chris Relf? He's already as good and probably better than Relf was even if he doesn't improve one iota.

KT has a legit chance to play in the NFL and probably will.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

It can be disputed.

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Yeah. This isn't like it's some cut and dried thing.

I think it's an example of our fans overvaluing QB mobility over passing ability is basically what it comes down to. KT finally starts and completes less than half his passes and we have our lowest point output of the year and we have a lot of fans that act like it's crazy that he didn't start the whole year because of two admittedly really awesome runs in the Egg Bowl. He also missed on at least 3-4 TD passes in that same game and no one really talks about it.

Having a QB that can make plays with his legs is awesome but if he can't complete passes it's going to limit your production. You need a QB that can legitimately do both. And this year that simply wasn't KT.

So, I'm not sure what Lebby would be apologizing for? "Yeah, uh sorry I didn't play the guy who scored fewer points in his start than any other SEC game this season. My bad."

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Originally Posted by Pinto

Thanks for proving me right, and showing not once by Lebby for a play call.

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get used to it. get to like Lebby because he will still be here in 5 years and do quite well.

I like Lebby I just think he has brain farts in crucial circumstances and doesn't inspire confidence in me yet! He resembles a deer in headlights when the pressure is on and makes bad decisions. And to beat a dead horse everyone with a football IQ should realize he should have played KT a lot more than he did.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

I like Lebby I just think he has brain farts in crucial circumstances and doesn't inspire confidence in me yet! He resembles a deer in headlights when the pressure is on and makes bad decisions. And to beat a dead horse everyone with a football IQ should realize he should have played KT a lot more than he did.

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I don't think he was ready. He was struggling a little bit with reads against Alcorn. He had improved a lot by the time Arkansas rolled around. And it's not like Lebby had a problem playing him when he felt like he was ready. But even against A&M there was confusion when KT was in the game and it caused us to get a penalty and cost us a TD.

Shapen wasn’t the reason we lost those three close games… he didn’t help but he didn’t hurt either. He made as many good plays as bad. The issue was play calling and crap defensive adjustment. Those both fall on Lebby. You kick the field goal and also you don’t hire someone who has never coached defense to be your defensive coach in the SEC. The position he is in right now is his own making.