Arnettt is a DAMN good DC

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cheewgumm

He didn?t destroy the program.

That is nonsense.

You?ll be thrilled when we are top half the SEC in defense.

You are welcome

---

He only lost the complete respect of the team. On both sides of the ball. I'd definitely say he played a part.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Todd4State

He only lost the complete respect of the team. On both sides of the ball. I'd definitely say he played a part.

---

You weren't this angry about Hutzler. Think about that.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Todd4State

Deep down MSU fans don't like this and they're trying to get to a point where they're coping.

Let's see here we have:

1. We had no choice had to hire Arnett. (Sounds familiar doesn't it?)

2. The DC Arnett wasn't the lying POS that the head coach Arnett was.

3. When his defense failed it was Leach's fault.

4. When he couldn't recruit it was Emerick and Dudek's fault.

5. Hey! Haven't you made bad mistakes in your life like backstab your co-workers and lie to everyone about what you were going to do so that you could keep the team together? (I have not for full disclosure)

6. 2023's defense doesn't count.

7. Maybe it will work. (We all know how this turns out)

---

Dude, you really are wrong here and need to get out of your feelings. Majority of our fans actually like this hire. You're in the minority.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Todd4State

Deep down MSU fans don't like this and they're trying to get to a point where they're coping.

Let's see here we have:

1. We had no choice had to hire Arnett. (Sounds familiar doesn't it?)

2. The DC Arnett wasn't the lying POS that the head coach Arnett was.

3. When his defense failed it was Leach's fault.

4. When he couldn't recruit it was Emerick and Dudek's fault.

5. Hey! Haven't you made bad mistakes in your life like backstab your co-workers and lie to everyone about what you were going to do so that you could keep the team together? (I have not for full disclosure)

6. 2023's defense doesn't count.

7. Maybe it will work. (We all know how this turns out)

---

Not gonna lie, I read this, started laughing as I poured some vodka and tonic in combo with some limes and a splash of cran!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by msstate7

No, whoever hired him destroyed the program. Arnett was damn good at his job, or he wouldn't have got the HC job. I forgive our DA decision makers though bc it was a totally unprecedented situation.

---

Agreed. The guy sucked as a HC but it's not his fault the administration asked him "Hey wanna be HC and make millions regardless if you win or lose?"

No coach with any sense of pride says no to that. He was willing to take on an impossible situation and paid the price. But our higher ups made the decision and ruined the program.

With that being said, Arnett made decisions and did things that didn't help the situation. At the same time, you're suppose to have people in place to control those situations from a PR standpoint. I mean Ole Miss got Kiffin a damn dog and his own Twitter account to change public perception.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

You weren't this angry about Hutzler. Think about that.

---

At least Hutzler is a respectable human being. I was always wait and see on Hutzler and had questions about his experience as a DC. And I'm not upset that he is gone. I'm upset at who MSU got to replace him.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

You weren't this angry about Hutzler. Think about that.

---

Who was the worst DC and worst hire made by MSU football ever. Just a total embarrassment as a DC and hire. I almost got physically ill when Hutzler was announced. The dude's first time to call a freaking defense was in the SEC! Totally unacceptable for a major program. That hire was Troy, South Alabama, USM level.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Dude, you really are wrong here and need to get out of your feelings. Majority of our fans actually like this hire. You're in the minority.

---

This hire is so bad that most fans haven't even noticed that Corey Bell is staying.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cheewgumm

People will be pissed because he was not great at head coach. I?d argue he got put into an impossible spot.


Regardless - fantastic DC.

Great hire

---

He was pretty good, with talent, which we don't have right now. Good luck with that.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Todd4State

At least Hutzler is a respectable human being. I was always wait and see on Hutzler and had questions about his experience as a DC. And I'm not upset that he is gone. I'm upset at who MSU got to replace him.

---

Did this guy beat your ass or something? This is absurd. The slandering of him as a human being is just weird man

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Thick

Not gonna lie, I read this, started laughing as I poured some vodka and tonic in combo with some limes and a splash of cran!

---

Pour one for me my friend!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Todd4State

This hire is so bad that most fans haven't even noticed that Corey Bell is staying.

---

That worries me way more than Arnett man. I really don't understand why he wasn't let go right after the Egg Bowl.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bigplayslay

Did this guy beat your ass or something? This is absurd. The slandering of him as a human being is just weird man

---

I enjoy winning football games and his actions greatly affected that. So I guess that falls into the category of "something".

Slander is when it isn't true by the way.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Todd4State

I enjoy winning football games and his actions greatly affected that. So I guess that falls into the category of "something".

Slander is when it isn't true by the way.

---

So you know Zach personally then? Enlighten me

We need to pin this thread

And revisit when 2026 defense ratings are final.

I know I am right.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

We can't have nice things.

---

How so? We hired him. If he's the savior you think he is, then it doesn't matter what fans say.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

That worries me way more than Arnett man. I really don't understand why he wasn't let go right after the Egg Bowl.

---

Good question. I think our recruiting staff is now worse than the first time Arnett was here. McBath was a good recruiter. Brock was meh as a recruiter. Phelps was better than burned out David Turner. We'll see who replaces
Turner though.

We didn't improve in this area and that's another major concern.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ArrowDawg

How so? We hired him. If he's the savior you think he is, then it doesn't matter what fans say.

---

Savior is a little extreme. I guess if the bar is our DC the last 2 seasons, maybe your rhetoric isn't extreme

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cheewgumm

We need to pin this thread

And revisit when 2026 defense ratings are final.

I know I am right.

---

The question is did we hire the best DC we could have and we didn't. That is regardless of the rankings next year.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ArrowDawg

He was pretty good, with talent, which we don't have right now. Good luck with that.

---

I don't remember many studs on defense under Arnett.

Forbes and Young come to mind. But we wasn't loaded with talent under him.

Which goes back to his lack of recruiting but also shows he can do it with less talent. If he has learned to recruit then that's even better. Actually don't even worry about recruiting... just pay them.