So Stricklin cost UF Kiffin

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I blame Cohen for that situation much more than Leach. When your leader is telling you that NIL is a fad and giving it to the baseball team that's an issue.

Leach was eccentric. But that didn't mean he was against NIL and the portal- Leach actually recruited the portal pretty well considering the resources at hand.

His staffs high school and Juco work was not getting it done either. That one dude who went to USC burned a lot of bridges in this state. He totally botched Picayune and the Dowdell situation and that's only one of them. Cohen gets plenty of blame also, he just gaffed up everything and let a group of clowns get control.

Look I'm not bashing Leach here, he fundamentally changed the game, was an offensive savant and could do more with less than anyone due to his system. But when he inevitably left the transition was going to be brutal. We just 17ed it up worse by putting the Arnett staff in place. That bottomed us out.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

His staffs high school and Juco work was not getting it done either. That one dude who went to USC burned a lot of bridges in this state. He totally botched Picayune and the Dowdell situation and that's only one of them. Cohen gets plenty of blame also, he just gaffed up everything and let a group of clowns get control.

Look I'm not bashing Leach here, he fundamentally changed the game, was an offensive savant and could do more with less than anyone due to his system. But when he inevitably left the transition was going to be brutal. We just 17ed it up worse by putting the Arnett staff in place. That bottomed us out.

Well Dowdell had a chance to come back to MSU and he then he went to Oregon or Nebraska instead so I don't feel bad at all about the Dowdell situation. That dude wasn't going to stay more than a year if we did get him. He's on his third school now at Kentucky and it wouldn't shock me if he ends up somewhere else again. I'm just saying we tried to make it right and he didn't take the opportunity so the butthurt by his handler should have stopped right then and there.

In this era teams should be able to rebuild in a year or two. You can literally flip a roster in an offseason. We couldn't do that after Leach passed away- why? Because of our NIL situation. And who was in charge of that? Cohen.

If we had a legit NIL structure in place when Leach passed away it would have saved us at least a year or two of rebuilding.

And I think this goes along with this topic to a degree at least. MSU has always expected the football coach to basically do what Ron Polk did in baseball and tell the administration what we needed to do. But the administration shouldn't rely solely on the coach to tell MSU what to do and what is needed. Dan was probably the closest to Polk in that regard and Dan did do a lot for our program to modernize it but he also lacked some areas to like recruiting.

And it's not like Arnett couldn't have adapted the offense to the players. Croom got railed for that for years and rightfully so. But it's Leach's staff's fault for not recruiting for the next staff?

When Arnett was our coach the recruiting was absolutely atrocious. Lebby basically salvaged that class at the end.

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Originally Posted by Thick

What exactly did Scott do or not do?

Had the right loafers but mismatched his socks. *****