Lebby knows KT should play

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

If Shapen had KTs plays, his sack numbers would be way higher. Our TDs would be lower too. Look at the TDs per play for KT. It is way up there compared to Shapen. I'm not sure I buy the sacks thing. KT running and TFL is not the same as a sack. He hasn't taken many true sacks.

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They do not count running and a TFL as a sack. I am correct. Feel free to go look. In fact, Shapen is actual 1 play per sack better. For every 9 passing attempts, Shapen is sacked. Taylor is 8 attempts per sack. I don't need to look at Taylor's TD totals. We don't live in isolation. How many tds does Taylor have after Shapen got us to the endzone? A lot.

More so, you put Taylor in as a starter and defenses will prep to stop his feet. They know the OL is week and will exploit it even more. They have less footage to go buy and his numbers are still not as good.

Nothing matters but getting a great OL.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Are you just making shit up?

Kamario has been sacked a grand total of 2 times. Shapen has been sacked 35 times.

31% of the time he's pressured, Shapen is taking a sack because he has zero feel for the pocket or pressure.

Kamario is at 14%.

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Sir, KT has been sacked 3 time in 24 attempts. Period.

It appears to me that the players seem to play harder when KT is in there. That's got to account for something. Is that enough to use KT more often? I think so. What have we got to loose?

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

The issue is KT has the same OL as Shapen. KT is averaging more sacks per passing play than Shapen. It's close, but still more. Putting him back there does not help or improve us with this OL. What it can do is kill his confidence and get him injured.

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So explain the QBR.... Shapen 57.0 (75th nationally) and Kamario Taylor 92.3

I mean, if you are going to compare play for play, number of passing plays to sacks, let's look at it all.

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

So explain the QBR.... Shapen 57.0 (75th nationally) and Kamario Taylor 92.3

I mean, if you are going to compare play for play, number of passing plays to sacks, let's look at it all.

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Taylor has not played as many snaps. If he had, we would be having a different conversation. In a round about way you are wanting to talk hypotheticals. Why? This isn't some anti Taylor argument. It's a "the OL sucks and no matter who is back there they are going to get man handled".

There is one game left and Shapen will be gone barring a win. We need an OL going in to next season and its going to take money to get them.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

Taylor has not played as many snaps. If he had, we would be having a different conversation. In a round about way you are wanting to talk hypotheticals. Why? This isn't some anti Taylor argument. It's a "the OL sucks and no matter who is back there they are going to get man handled".

There is one game left and Shapen will be gone barring a win. We need an OL going in to next season and its going to take money to get them.

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Their issue is their whole theory is that a mobile QB can overcome a crappy o-line. Your stat proves them wrong.

Which everyone with any football sense knows. But Hail State.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

The issue is KT has the same OL as Shapen. KT is averaging more sacks per passing play than Shapen. It's close, but still more. Putting him back there does not help or improve us with this OL. What it can do is kill his confidence and get him injured.

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I think the other issue here that no one wants to talk about it the fact that KT is still learning. Now, I think he has made some really remarkable progress between Alcorn and now. Which is awesome and should have everyone excited for the future. He is getting better and I have no doubt if his progress continues he will be the starter and is going to have an awesome career for us. But right now we have true freshman KT and not junior year KT.

But him scrambling isn't always the "best" decision. And yes, it may work to where he may get like a 20 yard run on a scramble which is a good thing. But if you have a wide receiver that is open on that same play that he should have thrown it to and missed it because he is learning we might be losing 20-30 more yards on a play and possibly a TD on that individual play. That's what Lebby is talking about when he is saying that KT leaves things on the field sometimes.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

Taylor has not played as many snaps. If he had, we would be having a different conversation. In a round about way you are wanting to talk hypotheticals. Why? This isn't some anti Taylor argument. It's a "the OL sucks and no matter who is back there they are going to get man handled".

There is one game left and Shapen will be gone barring a win. We need an OL going in to next season and its going to take money to get them.

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He's in year 6. Even if he leads us to his 2nd SEC victory, he already has the school record for pick 6's here and has only played 15 games due to injuries.

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Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses

Kamario has a touchdown percentage per play of 16%. Shapens is 4.4%. But that is skewed due to KT coming in during red zone plays so it actually helps his percentage alot. But even if you ignore the numbers, in my eyes KT is the guy. He passes the eye test for sure and it's just obvious. People will argue that tho.

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Considering Shapen's TDs percentage is way down when in the redzone, I say play KT.