Does anyone really think Lebby will still be our coach in 2027?

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11-16-2025, 12:01 AM
Rejlector84sports

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Originally Posted by Charlie_Sheen420

Jimbo has 70 million reasons plus not to give a **** about State and if he was here he would be mailing it in like Belechik

He was a finalist when Croom was hired. Sure, the situations have changed, but did we ever expect Leach to come? Maybe Jimbo wants to prove he can win in the SEC without all the pressure A&M put on him.
11-16-2025, 12:01 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Every time we think about firing a coach, our fans melt down and say that no coach would ever take our job.

Croom, Moorhead, Arnett, Lemonis. We made a big improvement on 3 of those 4, despite all the doomers. There are several million reasons why we can do it again.

Image Kamario playing for Gus Malzahn.
11-16-2025, 12:01 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

He had 4 solid years in A&M, including 3 ranked finishes and once when they got screwed out of a playoff bid, before things went South for him there. And even when things went South, he was still 11-11 (6-9) in his last 2 years -- a lot better than Lebby would have been.

You can't compare A&M resources and their situation with ours.
11-16-2025, 12:01 AM
Bothrops

We aren't winning in football again unless there are radical unforeseen changes in the future that cater to the little pairs like us, Wazoo, Oregon State, etc. That could mean a step down in competition. If we stay here, like it is, we might make a bowl every 7-8 seasons. We can't be a Mizzou anymore. We don't have that kind of support.
11-16-2025, 12:02 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Rejlector84sports

He was a finalist when Croom was hired. Sure, the situations have changed, but did we ever expect Leach to come? Maybe Jimbo wants to prove he can win in the SEC without all the pressure A&M put on him.

Jimbo ain't coming. A sunbelt coach probably would though, and I bet we could find one that can get 2 sec wins in 2 years, so it would be an improvement
11-16-2025, 12:02 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

Have we considered the possibility that this roster is bad? I dont think Saban wins more than 7 this year, time will tell bc Lebby aint being fired

Nope! It's always the coach.
11-16-2025, 12:04 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Rejlector84sports

I graduated in 1984 when Bellard was HC. In those 40 years (with one exception) the only success State has had is because of head coaches with experience at other schools (Bellard, Sherrill, and Leach [with the one exception being Mullen]). MSU has to quit thinking that just because you are a cooridator on some other team makes you qualified to run an SEC team. In today's environment a "head coach" is more of an adminstrator than a hands-on coach. And no longer is on-the-job training possible in the SEC. For State to compete you have to have someone who runs a whole ptogram. Because of financial constraints getting one of the "big guys" is not possible. You have to go with a head coach who has run a smaller program successful and let him build the same success he had at the lower level.

Lots of people like this we could conceivably hire. Some of them may take other P4 jobs before we get the chance:
Bob Chesney
Jason Candle
Matt Entz
Jon Sumrall
Brent Vigen
Brian Newberry
Troy Calhoun
Alex Golesh
KC Keeler
Charles Huff
Jimmy Rogers (maybe)
Tim Polasek
Tyson Helton
Ryan Silverfield

We could absolutely find someone on this list to take the job. Or maybe a retread like Gundy or Jimbo if they can convince us why things suddenly went South after years of success and why things would be different here.
11-16-2025, 12:05 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

Have we considered the possibility that this roster is bad? I dont think Saban wins more than 7 this year, time will tell bc Lebby aint being fired

That's ridiculous. A good coach would have beaten Tenenssee, Texas, and Florida, and that's 8.
11-16-2025, 12:05 AM
Cowbeller

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

We aren't winning in football again unless there are radical unforeseen changes in the future that cater to the little pairs like us, Wazoo, Oregon State, etc. That could mean a step down in competition. If we stay here, like it is, we might make a bowl every 7-8 seasons. We can't be a Mizzou anymore. We don't have that kind of support.

We just need to make a push to shift our fanbase into opening their wallet. TSUN made a push and it’s apart of that fanbases culture and look where they are. It’s not impossible to compete here but we are so boo hoo about everything. State fans are States worst enemy.
11-16-2025, 12:05 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

You can't compare A&M resources and their situation with ours.

I know. I was just correcting your inaccurate assertion that Jimbo was always bad at A&M because he didn't have Jameis, when actually he was only bad (though still way better than Lebby) for his last 2 years there.
11-16-2025, 12:06 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Nope! It's always the coach.

The head coach is ultimately responsible for everything. Even if Lebby were hypothetically a "good coach" in certain situations, if he can't win here, we need to move on. We are what we are, and we need a coach who can be successful with our particular situation.
11-16-2025, 12:07 AM
DawgFromOxford

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I wish I could say he won't be here in 2026, but all signs say he will.

But even half of the self-identified "Lebby supporters" have admitted here that they expect him to be fired after next season, when the schedule gets harder, the NIL support and talent get worse, and the stadium is emptier.

Who cares. Apathy has set in. Lebby has had chances to inspire the fan base and turn people into believers. This may be the first egg bowl in who knows how long I won?t bother to watch.
11-16-2025, 12:07 AM
Rejlector84sports

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Jimbo ain't coming.

Both Bellard and Sherrill came to State after being HC at A&M... who says lightning can't strike thrice?
11-16-2025, 12:08 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford

Who cares. Apathy has set in. Lebby has had chances to inspire the fan base and turn people into believers. This may be the first egg bowl in who knows how long I won?t bother to watch.

Exactly. Lebby has lost the fanbase. Our Athletic Department has to notice the dropoff in fan interest. It's going to be even worse next year.
11-16-2025, 12:09 AM
Cowbeller

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

That's ridiculous. A good coach would have beaten Tenenssee, Texas, and Florida, and that's 8.

I know we love talking about how we are 3 plays away from 3 wins but in reality Tenn beat us, a player not executing lost Florida, and Texas we ran out of gas. Yea Lebby made mistakes but he had bright spots too. That’s football and we just arent that good at it right now. To be close with this o line is honestly impressive.
11-16-2025, 12:09 AM
DawgFromOxford

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

We just need to make a push to shift our fanbase into opening their wallet. TSUN made a push and it’s apart of that fanbases culture and look where they are. It’s not impossible to compete here but we are so boo hoo about everything. State fans are States worst enemy.

TSUN made a push when it was evident they had a winner. It?s tough to get people to write million dollar checks when you don?t believe in the guy leading the team
11-16-2025, 12:11 AM
Cowbeller

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Exactly. Lebby has lost the fanbase. Our Athletic Department has to notice the dropoff in fan interest. It's going to be even worse next year.

If you arent going to watch the Egg Bowl you are at best a fair weather fan and I dont see why Lebby needs to cater to that demo
11-16-2025, 12:11 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Fisher was 83-23 (48-16) at Florida State with 4 top 10 finishes and a national title. Despite his mental health breakdown at A&M, he still finished 45-25 (27-21). Whatever school hires him, he'll have to convince the AD that he's moved on from whatever was going on his last 2 years there.

He's not my #1 choice or even in my top 15 list, but he would have been better than 2-10 last year and better than 5-6 right now.

Everyone here, look at this, this is why we suck all the way around. From $$$ to tickets to asses in seats, entitled people like this who actually think that their opinion matter are killing us. People live in a fantasy bubble and are separated from reality only thinking about what they perceive as how it is. We are divided and entirely too ignorant to ever get it together and actually do something in this current iteration of college football. No one, not on person that matters cares what your top 15 list is.
11-16-2025, 12:12 AM
Quaoarsking

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Originally Posted by Cowbeller

I know we love talking about how we are 3 plays away from 3 wins but in reality Tenn beat us, a player not executing lost Florida, and Texas we ran out of gas. Yea Lebby made mistakes but he had bright spots too. That’s football and we just arent that good at it right now. To be close with this o line is honestly impressive.

Lebby literally has 1 bright spot in his entire 23-game career, and as awesome as it was in the moment, he got pretty luck that Arizona State blew the coverage.
11-16-2025, 12:12 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford

TSUN made a push when it was evident they had a winner. It?s tough to get people to write million dollar checks when you don?t believe in the guy leading the team

^^^ this!!!! How the hell you gonna get people to sacrifice for the program when you have a loser HC?

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