I've seen enough now to know that KT should not be

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Constantly looking for the home run ball is the hallmark of the veer and shoot offense. Their motto is score from afar. That's what makes it successful and explosive. Think about our two wins against Arizona State and Arkansas. In both of those games, the key play that essentially won the games for us were on deep balls. KT will throw plenty of those in his career and he already has a few as I type this.

Just because a QB throws a pass short of the sticks it doesn't mean the QB made the wrong decision. They make that decision because the defense takes away the deeper options. You have to hope that your receiver can make a guy miss and pick up the first down. That's the design of the offense plus what the defense is giving you.

The offensive line is a major issue for us and honestly much more of an issue than Shapen.

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It's like Shapen has become the Bizzaro-Will Rogers. Where Will became allergic to deep passes and hit the check down almost immediately - Shapen is doing everything he can to find the deep ball and seems to wait so long no check down is an option due to the DL pressure. However, seeing Fluff drop some gimmes - that may not be the best option either.

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

It's like Shapen has become the Bizzaro-Will Rogers. Where Will became allergic to deep passes and hit the check down almost immediately - Shapen is doing everything he can to find the deep ball and seems to wait so long no check down is an option due to the DL pressure. However, seeing Fluff drop some gimmes - that may not be the best option either.

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Some of that is the offense teaches to look for those shots. Unfortunately for us, you need a really good line to run this offense. You have to protect the QB.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Some of that is the offense teaches to look for those shots. Unfortunately for us, you need a really good line to run this offense. You have to protect the QB.

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I get that - but there is a difference in looking at those shots and waiting for those shots. I get they take a little bit longer to develop. Maybe more of it comes down to play calling? We seem to not do much in the screen game, or the Mesh that would allow us to move when the line isn't protecting well enough for the deep routes to develop. I was shocked when KT hit that quick out to Thompson on his 2nd play in the 3rd Q that went for 14 yards. One it had quick zip (which it seem we never have a QB that makes that quick throw well); but it also was something we just don't see much in this offense.

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Originally Posted by 99jc

Shapen is good when not under pressure but he takes way too many sacks when he can throw the ball away. Playing KT the last 2 games is invaluable for his progress even if we don't win. The people who say Shapen is much better don't have a clue about football.

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Hey 99 was it you who used to do FEMA work?

There's no reason Shapen should play these last two games. KT's improvement just from August has been remarkable. I don't care if he doesn't know the whole play book. He gives us more threat than Shapen, which is what really matters. I'm more than willing to live with KT's growing pains than have to watch Shapen 17 up in the most obvious, damaging, predictable ways again. I said it after the Florida game and I haven't seen anything since to convince me otherwise. KT may not be ready, but there's a reason Shapen was a B12 QB. He isn't good enough for the SEC. Big arm, inaccurate, and the mobility of a statue is the exact definition of a B12 QB.