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10-27-2025, 09:00 AM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Lebby HAS to find a way to win this weekend. With Mizzou now down to their 3rd string QB, that game is very winnable. If we could get to 6-6 and get a free shot at home against OM I would like our chances. I feel like 5-6 would have us playing tight, which as we have seen does us no favors.

Hitting the helium early I see.
10-27-2025, 09:11 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Hitting the helium early I see.

Not picking us to win any of those at this moment. But I am also not stock saying cancel the season. The buy in from the players is still absolutely there. Talked to a manager with the team yesterday evening and he said everyone walked in pissed off but none were pissed off at Lebby or the staff. Said Loadholt had an uncomfortable meeting with the OL where he told them in no uncertain terms that the pre snap penalties in the OT drive and not being able to run the ball and close the game out was on them and they all had to live with that, including Loadholt.

The buy in from the team is still very much there and hell, maybe I am just zigging to everyone else zag. I said Saturday night that I am in wait and see mode with Lebby but that does not mean I am going to be doom and gloom for the next month either. We have shown we have the ability to hang with anyone, we just have to close.
10-27-2025, 09:16 AM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Not picking us to win any of those at this moment. But I am also not stock saying cancel the season. The buy in from the players is still absolutely there. Talked to a manager with the team yesterday evening and he said everyone walked in pissed off but none were pissed off at Lebby or the staff. Said Loadholt had an uncomfortable meeting with the OL where he told them in no uncertain terms that the pre snap penalties in the OT drive and not being able to run the ball and close the game out was on them and they all had to live with that, including Loadholt.

The buy in from the team is still very much there and hell, maybe I am just zigging to everyone else zag. I said Saturday night that I am in wait and see mode with Lebby but that does not mean I am going to be doom and gloom for the next month either. We have shown we have the ability to hang with anyone, we just have to close.

It's not the players attitudes but something more damaging, The Critical thought process in crunch time play calling and execution. Hey Mullen had it also.
10-27-2025, 09:19 AM
Tater

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Not picking us to win any of those at this moment. But I am also not stock saying cancel the season. The buy in from the players is still absolutely there. Talked to a manager with the team yesterday evening and he said everyone walked in pissed off but none were pissed off at Lebby or the staff. Said Loadholt had an uncomfortable meeting with the OL where he told them in no uncertain terms that the pre snap penalties in the OT drive and not being able to run the ball and close the game out was on them and they all had to live with that, including Loadholt.

The buy in from the team is still very much there and hell, maybe I am just zigging to everyone else zag. I said Saturday night that I am in wait and see mode with Lebby but that does not mean I am going to be doom and gloom for the next month either. We have shown we have the ability to hang with anyone, we just have to close.

Im doom and gloom on saturday night as a fan. Sunday is hangover. By Monday - I put on Bill Withers - Lovely Day and get back on the saddle.

All four of our games left are winnable. It's annoying that that 10-2 talk earlier this year was this close to in grasp. We can compete with anyone. We just need to stop being idiots and close. Having Fluff back will be huge.

OL ain't the only unit to blame. Saturday night's debacle was a team failure.
10-27-2025, 09:25 AM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by parabrave

It's not the players attitudes but something more damaging, The Critical thought process in crunch time play calling and execution. Hey Mullen had it also.

It's called the choke factor and Leb has exceeded the yearly allotment.
10-27-2025, 09:30 AM
Activated Alpha

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Players dont think like this. The players know Lebby wasnt covering the WR's making the big plays in the 4th Q. They also know Lebby didnt get the FG blocked or hit the QB late. The OL knows how many sacks they allowed. The players actually have some sense.

Deonte Anderson #6 has entered the chat....

But honestly, I know Lebby had them engaged all games last year and I don't seriously expect any different this year, but I'm venting because I'm still pissed off.
10-27-2025, 09:50 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Tater

Im doom and gloom on saturday night as a fan. Sunday is hangover. By Monday - I put on Bill Withers - Lovely Day and get back on the saddle.

All four of our games left are winnable. It's annoying that that 10-2 talk earlier this year was this close to in grasp. We can compete with anyone. We just need to stop being idiots and close. Having Fluff back will be huge.

OL ain't the only unit to blame. Saturday night's debacle was a team failure.

Fluff is going to look All SEC vs Arkansas. He probably will be the reason we win, if we do.
10-27-2025, 10:37 AM
basedog

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Originally Posted by parabrave

It's called the choke factor and Leb has exceeded the yearly allotment.

Para my friend, bad decisions by Lebby can be fixed. Hite someone he trust to help manage the games. Yes he has made bad decisions but some of our players have bad some really bad decisions with stupid penalties.
We have 4 more games to play, who knows we may win a game or two.
10-27-2025, 11:45 AM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Fluff is going to look All SEC vs Arkansas. He probably will be the reason we win, if we do.

So Fluff is back at Ark? I know he dressed and warmed up Saturday. We need to pound Ark on the ground and throw enough to keep the running lanes open. Score, eat clock and keep ball away from Ark O. That is how we win.
10-27-2025, 01:03 PM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by basedog

Para my friend, bad decisions by Lebby can be fixed. Hite someone he trust to help manage the games. Yes he has made bad decisions but some of our players have bad some really bad decisions with stupid penalties.
We have 4 more games to play, who knows we may win a game or two.

Stupid Penalties happen all the time and they always happen at the wrong moment. Either some lineman tackles their opposing player or a Pass interference or a stupid PF. Alot of times the holding is to save the Q from getting killed and the PI is to save a TD. But 2 weeks in a row of just head scratching play calling, either by Shapen or Leb, is concerning. One other thing were the 2 plays, one a TD and one a 1st down, that were called short on the field but would've been overturned were not even challenged, Even the announcers were perplexed that we went hurry up and snapped the ball. The 1st down play we didn't get and we did get the TD.
10-27-2025, 06:05 PM
parabrave

At 4.5 now with the O/U at 67. Head scratcher of the day Vandy +1,5 against texas. That also depends on Archs condition on Game day.
10-27-2025, 06:12 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by parabrave

At 4.5 now with the O/U at 67. Head scratcher of the day Vandy +1,5 against texas. That also depends on Archs condition on Game day.

I thought about trying to wait to see if it goes to 5.5 but I may just buy the point and get it now. I really think we do win. They will by far be the worst defensive team we will play this year. And look, we are scoring and scheming up some great defenses.
10-27-2025, 06:52 PM
parabrave

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I thought about trying to wait to see if it goes to 5.5 but I may just buy the point and get it now. I really think we do win. They will by far be the worst defensive team we will play this year. And look, we are scoring and scheming up some great defenses.

I'm more worried about the O/U being pushed into the 80s
10-27-2025, 06:56 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Maverick91

I don't see what you guys see for arky being this juggernot on offense. We have played with and held better offenses at bay this year. Their defense just allowed a putrid Auburn offense to pay 30 on them. If we don't lay the wood to them this weekend Lebby needs to be USC kiffined.

Losing this weekend will lose me. It's unacceptable. Their stadium was half full last week as well.

If Lebby hasn't lost the team this should and better be an easy freaking win.

Because Auburn actually had a replacement QB for Jackson Arnold. We do not have that option.
10-27-2025, 07:58 PM
1eyedog

DEL
10-27-2025, 08:02 PM
1eyedog

They had the winning drive on om and fumbled.....sound familiar? And that was before Biker took over HC....
10-27-2025, 09:09 PM
SPMT

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Players dont think like this. The players know Lebby wasnt covering the WR's making the big plays in the 4th Q. They also know Lebby didnt get the FG blocked or hit the QB late. The OL knows how many sacks they allowed. The players actually have some sense.

So, they also know Lebby is abhorrently bad at in game decisions outside of dialing a few explosive plays. Ray Charles can see it, I?m sure they can.
10-27-2025, 09:12 PM
SPMT

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Stupid Penalties happen all the time and they always happen at the wrong moment. Either some lineman tackles their opposing player or a Pass interference or a stupid PF. Alot of times the holding is to save the Q from getting killed and the PI is to save a TD. But 2 weeks in a row of just head scratching play calling, either by Shapen or Leb, is concerning. One other thing were the 2 plays, one a TD and one a 1st down, that were called short on the field but would've been overturned were not even challenged, Even the announcers were perplexed that we went hurry up and snapped the ball. The 1st down play we didn't get and we did get the TD.

Facts. He has to fix this or he won?t win an SEC game. He?s not the benefactor of a loaded Miami 2001 team to keep his inability to mange the game and the offense at bay.
10-28-2025, 08:10 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by SPMT

So, they also know Lebby is abhorrently bad at in game decisions outside of dialing a few explosive plays. Ray Charles can see it, I?m sure they can.

Players know they ****ed up alot and realize they lost the game
10-28-2025, 08:27 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Players know they ****ed up alot and realize they lost the game

Everyone to blame, but Lebby

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