Poll Question: Should we fire Lebby if we finish 4-8 (0-8)?

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

We have plenty of very wealthy alumni. We don’t court them. The ones we do are more interested in baseball. It’s sad.

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That just not true. Sounds good but not true.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

This is my answer.

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Me too.

You can?t hold him accountable for last year! NOW, this is his second year, and we are 10k times better. If you told me at the beginning of the season, that we would be 4-0 after our first 4, and then tell me that we could/should be 7-1 or 6-2 thru 8 I would have told you to 17 off. SO, I think we can win 2 games. If the last 3 games haven?t opened your eyes to what he has done after what he was dealt, well I think you?re nuts. He needs to hire an OC, and he needs to be coached during the game on clock management and short yardage packages. He should take some pointers from Kiffin on short yardage. He deserves 3 years, but Selmon needs to ?urge? him to hire an OC.

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Originally Posted by Thick

You can?t hold him accountable for last year! NOW, this is his second year, and we are 10k times better. If you told me at the beginning of the season, that we would be 4-0 after our first 4, and then tell me that we could/should be 7-1 or 6-2 thru 8 I would have told you to 17 off. SO, I think we can win 2 games. If the last 3 games haven?t opened your eyes to what he has done after what he was dealt, well I think you?re nuts. He needs to hire an OC, and he needs to be coached during the game on clock management and short yardage packages. He should take some pointers from Kiffin on short yardage. He deserves 3 years, but Selmon needs to ?urge? him to hire an OC.

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I totally agree with this.

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Originally Posted by Thick

You can?t hold him accountable for last year! NOW, this is his second year, and we are 10k times better. If you told me at the beginning of the season, that we would be 4-0 after our first 4, and then tell me that we could/should be 7-1 or 6-2 thru 8 I would have told you to 17 off. SO, I think we can win 2 games. If the last 3 games haven?t opened your eyes to what he has done after what he was dealt, well I think you?re nuts. He needs to hire an OC, and he needs to be coached during the game on clock management and short yardage packages. He should take some pointers from Kiffin on short yardage. He deserves 3 years, but Selmon needs to ?urge? him to hire an OC.

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"You can't blame Lebby for getting humiliated by Toledo because our talent was THAT bad" is a delusional and indefensible position to take.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

"You can't blame Lebby for getting humiliated by Toledo because our talent was THAT bad" is a delusional and indefensible position to take.

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He didn't mention Toledo. But our talent was trash last year. Trash. You and mstate cans keep kicking the shit out of the dead horse. We get your stances.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

That just not true. Sounds good but not true.

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I’ve got a close friend in fundraising at the University of Alabama. He’s high up in the ranks and well connected. He started at state. You can pretend it’s not true and take the po’ ol’ State route if you want but I’ve got it from the horses mouth. It’s true. We are ill organized when it comes to football fundraising. It’s one of the reasons he left.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

"You can't blame Lebby for getting humiliated by Toledo because our talent was THAT bad" is a delusional and indefensible position to take.

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That?s how bad our talent was!! What?s delusional is thinking you should shit can him! One more thing?..I will scream this at the top of my lungs. You can?t take a freshman QB from this state and expect him to be successful in this league. That?s DELUSIONAL!! Plus our fanbase would roast his ass immediately, and call Lebby an idiot for starting him.

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

Ole Miss, and especially Vandy, have boosters that are much wealthier than ours. We have the Dollar General version of Cigar Boys. And OM's boosters have always been all-in on football in a way ours haven't. Vandy's boosters have historically not cared, but that appears to have changed with NIL and baseball showing them they can be competitive if they play the same game as everyone else in the conference, even with their academic restrictions.

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Our losses have nothing to do with NIL, nada. This year showed us that we have enough NIL to compete and win.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

That just not true. Sounds good but not true.

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But it makes them feel good to repeat this to each other. If they say it enough it has to be true. Cant let that pesky reality get in the way.

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

I’ve got a close friend in fundraising at the University of Alabama. He’s high up in the ranks and well connected. He started at state. You can pretend it’s not true and take the po’ ol’ State route if you want but I’ve got it from the horses mouth. It’s true. We are ill organized when it comes to football fundraising. It’s one of the reasons he left.

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Were. And thankfully that administration is no more and things are beginning to come together. This is a huge and not 17ing it up is paramount. That said we do not have a bottomless pit of funding. Sadly none of the Drummonds went to school here.

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

We have plenty of very wealthy alumni. We don’t court them. The ones we do are more interested in baseball. It’s sad.

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Like is 🍣 getting things together to court them?

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Originally Posted by Thick

That?s how bad our talent was!! What?s delusional is thinking you should shit can him! One more thing?..I will scream this at the top of my lungs. You can?t take a freshman QB from this state and expect him to be successful in this league. That?s DELUSIONAL!! Plus our fanbase would roast his ass immediately, and call Lebby an idiot for starting him.

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I've never called for a freshman QB to play, so I don't know who your comment is directed at.

Fascinating how it's over 80% "No" here and majority "Yes" on Sixpack.

Without question.

No. We have had some real let downs but you can?t ignore the progress made. As long as we continue to progress and build you keep him.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I'm not as pessimistic as you long-term, because our former peers Vanderbilt and Ole Miss are headed to the playoffs, and we would be in the mix too if Lebby was a better coach, even with this exact same roster.

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Maybe, just maybe we didn?t get blown out by UT, UF and UT BECAUSE of Lebby? We all know their roster on paper is much better than ours.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

And then 0-8 in Y3

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Oh my. Good thing they saw something in him.

I’m voting no, but it’ll really depend on how those final 4 defeats happen.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Maybe, just maybe we didn?t get blown out by UT, UF and UT BECAUSE of Lebby? We all know their roster on paper is much better than ours.

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You can argue that for Tennessee, but Florida is a bad and terribly coached team that has played everyone close, and Texas has also been underperforming all year. I wasn't surprised we were close with those, but I was surprised that we were lined up to win before Lebby blew it.

Is any Kentucky fan impressed with Stoops for losing to Texas in overtime? Did beating Florida help Brian Kelly keep his job? Nobody else is taking Florida or Texas seriously, so why should we accept self-inflected losses to them?