shapen vs corral

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Ok. Go watch all of KT's drives this year and tell me how many missed reads he has had this year. Shapen in the meantime has helped Baylor win a Big 12 championship as a freshman and he best Arizona State this year. What has KT done? Beat Winona HS?

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Shapen has lost 8 straight conf games as a starting qb. Last 4 were here, and previous 4 at Baylor.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

And that's what we're doing. I think I posted either last week or the week before that Tebow played between 8-11 plays his true freshman year and it was a lot of runs. We are doing the exact same thing with Kamario. We're getting his feet wet and getting him game action, but not overloading him.

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Tebow was a critical part of Florida's team his true freshman season:

- 33 completions on 58 attempts for 358 passing yards and 5 passing touchdowns
- 469 rushing yards and 8 rushing touchdowns on 89 carries

Leak was the starter of course. Point being how we use KT and how Florida used Tebow his freshman year are not remotely the same thing, not even in the same universe (Tebow was exceptional though).

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Tebow was a critical part of Florida's team his true freshman season:

- 33 completions on 58 attempts for 358 passing yards and 5 passing touchdowns
- 469 rushing yards and 8 rushing touchdowns on 89 carries

Leak was the starter of course. Point being how we use KT and how Florida used Tebow his freshman year are not remotely the same thing, not even in the same universe (Tebow was exceptional though).

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I'm not disagreeing that we need to use Kamario more. I think he needs 12-15 plays a game, and like Tebow we need to have some type of pass or gadget pass in there. But if he can't really grasp the playbook then it is difficult to trust him to take more of a load.

If Lebby goes hard after a experienced portal QB, we might not ever see KT

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I do not have a problem giving him a series here and there. And if he has a hot hand maybe give him the next one. But right now, Shapen still gives you the best chance to win. I mean hell I am more pissed at Shapen than anyone because the 17?er ruined a ML parlay that would have won me 3K yesterday. But he still threw for over 300 yds and did make some good throws and good plays. I know for an absolute fact that Kamario could not have made the 4th and 16 pass to Thompson when we were down 9. He would have hit Sunbelt Billy with the ball. Shapen is what he is, a more mobile and stronger arm version of Will Rogers without the intelligence of Will. That can win you 2 more games. Yesterday sucked, but the season is not over and we are not making a QB change. If that is going to cause people to jump off the boat then I hate to see it, but you were looking for reasons to do it and were not bought in.

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Shapen also missed some huge opportunities down the field. The ones that Evans and Thompson caught they were diving and sliding catches. The last play was unacceptable especially a 6th year senior.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

You're not wrong. That is my worry. Because everything I've heard is that he's behind of where they want him to be in terms of the playbook. This was my concern because he's coming from, as C34 has stated numerous times, a very simplistic play calling system. He's going from Doubles Orange 93 to Green Left Twin Nasty 382 X Stick Lookie Kill 124 Hop X Curl H Sneak. Obviously not our exact play calls but you get the gist of it. And that's just the terminology portion. There's learning how to operate in the system as well, which he's also having trouble with.

The coaches are working A TON with him so it's not just throwing their hands up. But I wouldn't be shocked if we pursued a transfer QB in the portal.

And look, this has nothing to do with his ability. He's probably the most physically gifted QB we've ever had, but he's not perfect. There's issues with him.

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Then dumb the playbook down. You think Mullen opened the playbook for Relf? Run, run, throw deep.