Let's Build some Baseball condos

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

You'd be wrong about that part too. Add $15MM to the about $10 MM we spend in NIL and you're at $25MM. That gets you serious talent. OM didn't touch that number and got good talent. Plus, you cannot build your athletics around baseball. We aren't throwing a bunch of extra money at baseball, this buyout was cheap and we've always had the money on that side. Just a bunch of dumb 17s defending mediocrity in baseball to protect fat boy access.

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No way in hell we can spend an EXTRA $15 million on Football NIL. I'm talking about adding $15 million to the entire "current" expenditures. As Brunswick said, State would still be near or at the bottom of the SEC economy. You want to see Donors disappear? Treat Baseball like an Olympic "so-called" Niche sport. You will lose millions in donations to the athletics department trying to reach up from #16 in football to #13 in football. That would definitely send us to CUSA quicker than the current schedule we are on.

Build another condo building and raise the price of season tickets for everyone. Some will get priced out, but that's just the cost of doing business these days. As hot as Mississippi State baseball is, it's only going to get hotter, and there are plenty of people that will be willing to take someone's tickets if they feel the price is too high.

Baseball can be a true revenue sport here but we've got to raise the prices on some stuff.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Build another condo building and raise the price of season tickets for everyone. Some will get priced out, but that's just the cost of doing business these days. As hot as Mississippi State baseball is, it's only going to get hotter, and there are plenty of people that will be willing to take someone's tickets if they feel the price is too high.

Baseball can be a true revenue sport here but we've got to raise the prices on some stuff.

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We will not raise prices until the original seat licenses expire. That was the deal and it will be honored. Now once those expire, some in 28 but most in 29, then the ticket prices will probably triple or quadruple.

What about some type of small expansion?

We could get 15k every weekend game, with big ones bringing 20k plus.

What are the possibilities there?

Because when we start winning the demand will be there.

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

What about some type of small expansion?

We could get 15k every weekend game, with big ones bringing 20k plus.

What are the possibilities there?

Because when we start winning the demand will be there.

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Any potential expansion to DNF will be 8-10 years away. Football is getting the first priority and that will be a very large project. We have to renovate the club level on the East Side. We want to build an additional club level on the West Side. We have to figure out what we want to do with the Seal Building as well. That's easily an 80-100 million dollar project all said and done.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Any potential expansion to DNF will be 8-10 years away. Football is getting the first priority and that will be a very large project. We have to renovate the club level on the East Side. We want to build an additional club level on the West Side. We have to figure out what we want to do with the Seal Building as well. That's easily an 80-100 million dollar project all said and done.

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This, Baseball is a long way off from seeing anything like what they are wanting.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

This, Baseball is a long way off from seeing anything like what they are wanting.

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I mean if a baseball booster wants to cut a 50-60 million dollar check then we'll move it up but unless it's FULLY privately funded then baseball is at the back of the line in terms of renovations.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I mean if a baseball booster wants to cut a 50-60 million dollar check then we'll move it up but unless it's FULLY privately funded then baseball is at the back of the line in terms of renovations.

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Hang on let me grab my checkbook.

Understandable .

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Originally Posted by Bert Stare

The original condos were built for around 8 million (pre covid price increases). A new set will probably be north of $10 million now. They will likely wait until the original set is fully paid off from lease payments and roof rentals before leveraging more. The original design did allow room for another set of condos from just outside the left field foul pole meeting the other set so they can share a stairway/egress in the middle.

they would also need to plan to do this in one off season (7-8 months). They could pre-order steel and long lead items to make it work. Gonna need a good steel erector and brick mason for that schedule. I hope it happens soon.

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Original set is supposed to be paid off this year.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Look, I know you guys love baseball and get emotional aboout it. I have no problem with that, I hope we do good to. But I also believe in making rational, well thought out decisions that benefit the entire university and athletic department, not a niche sport (compared to football and basketball). If more condos produce net revenue that can be used to supplement football and basketball by all means, let's do it. But I highly doubt that is the case.

Selmon seems to be pretty discerning when it comes to revenue matters, so I'll yield to his decisions.

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The first set is about to be pure profit. Should build more. That's a quick turn on profit. Nowhere else can you make one that fast from building a facility or adding to it.

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

What about some type of small expansion?

We could get 15k every weekend game, with big ones bringing 20k plus.

What are the possibilities there?

Because when we start winning the demand will be there.

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Small expansion will cost a ton. And any expansion is going to people that buy the seats. All the ga people hoping for chairbacks for them are wishing for Santa to come through. Something has to pay for it. Baseball expansion is way way way down the list. And that includes more lofts. Which is build the lofts bc of their quick profit. But I'm not in charge

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I mean if a baseball booster wants to cut a 50-60 million dollar check then we'll move it up but unless it's FULLY privately funded then baseball is at the back of the line in terms of renovations.

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This

Next set of condos will be erected summer of 27'.

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Originally Posted by trob115

Next set of condos will be erected summer of 27'.

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I had heard 28 or 29, but we may have moved that timeline up. We already have the space cleared for them and like Homedawg said, they're quick profit because they'll be leased immediately.

Saw some variance of the word erection more times this morning than I thought I would??

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

You are THAT guy. We could spend and extra $15 million per year on Football and still be in the bottom 1/3 of the SEC. We could spend an extra $4 mil per year on baseball players and be in the Top 1/3 of the league. We could spend an extra $5 mil per year on basketball and stay in the Top 1/3 of the league.

Football 105 scholarships plus NIL
Baseball 35 scholarships plus NIL
Basketball 15 scholarships plus NIL

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I'm all for us getting BOC and being really good at baseball, but football should always be the main focus at every university in this conference. It's weird that it even has to be said to this fanbase. Not a little bit weird. Like extremely weird. Football HAS to be fixed or we are going to end up in the Sunbelt. That's not fear mongering. If you want to enjoy your palace of a baseball stadium with home series every week against Arkansas State and USM, then continue to treat football like it's baseball's little brother and see where that gets us. We could win the baseball national championship 100 years in a row and if football is going 2-10 every year we are going to get relegated eventually. Even if you don't give a sh*t about football, you better treat it right or it will take everything else down with it.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I'm all for us getting BOC and being really good at baseball, but football should always be the main focus at every university in this conference. It's weird that it even has to be said to this fanbase. Not a little bit weird. Like extremely weird. Football HAS to be fixed or we are going to end up in the Sunbelt. That's not fear mongering. If you want to enjoy your palace of a baseball stadium with home series every week against Arkansas State and USM, then continue to treat football like it's baseball's little brother and see where that gets us. We could win the baseball national championship 100 years in a row and if football is going 2-10 every year we are going to get relegated eventually. Even if you don't give a sh*t about football, you better treat it right or it will take everything else down with it.

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This times 1000. It's great to be good at baseball and it's really fun, we have the Grove of Baseball. But it pales in comparison to being good at football. The revenue generated by being EVEN AVERAGE, like 7-5, in football trumps a national championship season in baseball. And like Jarius said, if you want to keep having these incredible atmospheres for baseball and keep attracting top talent, then football has to be THE PRIORITY. Luckily for us, we have an AD that implicitly understands that.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I'm all for us getting BOC and being really good at baseball, but football should always be the main focus at every university in this conference. It's weird that it even has to be said to this fanbase. Not a little bit weird. Like extremely weird. Football HAS to be fixed or we are going to end up in the Sunbelt. That's not fear mongering. If you want to enjoy your palace of a baseball stadium with home series every week against Arkansas State and USM, then continue to treat football like it's baseball's little brother and see where that gets us. We could win the baseball national championship 100 years in a row and if football is going 2-10 every year we are going to get relegated eventually. Even if you don't give a sh*t about football, you better treat it right or it will take everything else down with it.

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You can't talk sense with fools. These baseball only whackos can't look and see USM and realize that's what they want.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

This times 1000. It's great to be good at baseball and it's really fun, we have the Grove of Baseball. But it pales in comparison to being good at football. The revenue generated by being EVEN AVERAGE, like 7-5, in football trumps a national championship season in baseball. And like Jarius said, if you want to keep having these incredible atmospheres for baseball and keep attracting top talent, then football has to be THE PRIORITY. Luckily for us, we have an AD that implicitly understands that.

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This is why it's so important to get the baseball alums more involved than ever. They are beginning to come back and help baseball and we see what is happening there, basketball is taken care of by two boosters, we need every other penny to stay at least relevant on the football field.