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As long as he went to the CWS as HC, and not the crap our media tried to salvage with Cohen's comments by saying Lemonis went multiple times.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
"He or They".... Basedog are you getting into pronouns these days ? ***
Edit: I hope it is not Walter. If so, then fine, but while we get to post our preferences, hoping for a few others on the list.
LOL, I think we have two that are highest on the list. I think so far, we have a good back up plan something Cohen never had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
I'm with you on HC with CWS experience, to me that says a lot. I'm not worried about a Coach being in their 50's as long as they are driven and motivated. From what I read about Butch was interesting saying he is quite and nice but has a burning desire to win and is a good recruiter. Btw he has the potential number one draft for MLB on his team right now. I like the fact he knows the Sec and our tradition.
I really like BOC, but I'm not sold on him coming to Msu, But I would take him for sure with his experience, his CWS experience is another plus.
I also have grown on Wes Johnson, he has proven he can win.
Walters may be ok but he is way down my list.
One thing about Selmon, he keeps things out of the media for a reason. I don't think he is nearly as bad as many ED posters say. What I like about him he doesn't draw attention to himself.
P.S. 34 my man, being in your 50's is not old for a baseball coach. I'm in my 70's and that is the new 50's! Hell I rode my bike 34 miles the other day, LOL! Stay out of Wendy's and the bars and eat right, living in Small Towns is much safer than big cities!
We just fired a guy with CWS experience. It doesn't carry much weight for me.
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Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yeah, Butch's age and a couple down years on his recent resume worries me. You can count on one hand the number of coaches who have had sustained success past their mid-50s in the modern era. Plus, everything has changed so much lately. How much is he going to want to embrace it all and keep evolving? Like everyone else, I want stability in the program. It's critical. Are we going to be doing this again in 5 years because Butch has had enough?
I'm torn, because Butch and BOC are among the best in the game NOW. It seems silly to not be excited about either of them possibly being the next coach. I just cant help but wonder where they are on the "give a crap" timeline plot.
Northeast MS is built different.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I like Butch, and why I would have no big issue with Coggin. Lots of people from that area are driven in life.
Basedog, did you ride 34 miles as a tribute to C34?Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Good pick up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
I'd be thrilled with butch. if you've ever been in a room with him when he talks baseball that dude gets it and has a fire and the knowledge to go with it. i don't know him personally but have been around him several times and its no wonder he can recruit while at the same time isn't abrasive.
the "old school, can he adapt" concern may be a legit one BUT one thing to remember about that '13 team is how butch and cohen basically invented the "opener" role that then became the thing to do in pro ball. now, adapting game plans is different than adapting to NIL and the portal but he's shown he's not stuck in tradition and can't adjust in order to win.
there's also some other names on these lists i'd be highly interested in and think would be great hires...BOC, bakich, and even coggin would get me excited. but no doubt i'd take butch and run with it for the next 10 years.
I think that's what a lot of people don't know or understand about Butch. He's a Cohen protege' and we all know Cohen was the IB. I know Butch and he's one fierce competitor. He might not be a homerun hire but he'd be a triple IMO. He'd do well here with the support he would get.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
It would be nice to stick it to Cohen and make him have to hire another HC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
LMBO, actually it was 34.2 miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
The elephant in the room I've never wanted to bring up. I'm not trying to step on toes, I'm sure Starkville High and Starkville Academy are fine schools, but most of these coaches are coming from locations that have legit, well known private schools and that's the type schools they are looking for. My boys attend a private school here in Memphis that have athletic facilities closer to college than high school. It's a big school with a large campus with everything you can possibly imagine. I'm not saying that to brag, we are beyond blessed that's where they attend but I imagine coaches who have money, are looking for that same type of education and facility for their children and unfortunately Starkville just doesn't offer that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Butch would be the normal MSU hire. Safe and with a MSU connection. I wouldn't hate it, but it wouldn't excite me either.
Base, did John Cohen say this again?*****. Seriously, hope this is true this time. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
A new nickname? Coach34.2? ***Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I inspire people. It's a giftQuote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Rosebowl has been holding firm that Butch is not a possibility. Assuming that comes from Cohen.
It's hard for me to see an SEC coach leaving to come to State but obviously anything can happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
If we are indeed getting an experienced HC with CWS experience then to me that sings "disgruntled ACC coach" that sees the coming future of college baseball as very SEC heavy
It's still Pollard from Duke. All the rest of this is just smoke signals from the dangerous radical left media talking heads.
This is why Coggin does not bother me at all as a HC. He grew up wanting this, MSU baseball, and sees this job for what we see it also.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg