Some of you need to realize about baseball

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

You must have listened to Robbie and Hadad.

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lmao- **** no. I would never listen to those assclowns

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Originally Posted by Coach34

some people think he may pull the trigger a little early to seem like he really cares if we continue this course another 5 weeks

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Some people who matter or just random posters?

Doesn?t seem like he would want any extra attention brought to the search by doing it in the middle of the season if he doesn?t actually care about it.

Why flounder out there and leave him unable to make a move if the coaches are still out there coaching.

Any coach we are after whether it?s a HC or assistant better be in the post season.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

We've always made money in baseball. If we aren't now it's only bc of the stadium financing.

Our baseball team has always been a point of pride thru tough times in football. If Selmon doesn't take baseball seriously, he won't be around long.

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This is spot on.

If he pulls the trigger in five weeks that's kind of dumb because by that time we will have like 2 weeks left.

What's he trying to do? Light a fire under the team before we go play Mizzou?

Well if basketball and football wasn?t an abortion, then maybe we would cut him some slack.

First off, he is the Athletic Director. Not the ?Football and Basketball? Director.

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

Some people who matter

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This

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

Well if basketball and football wasn?t an abortion, then maybe we would cut him some slack.

First off, he is the Athletic Director. Not the ?Football and Basketball? Director.

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He inherited Arnett. Not his fault. We'll know more about Lebby this year and in 2026.

We made the NCAA Tournament. Sure maybe it's disappointing we didn't go further and it sucks that Ole Miss made the sweet 16 but I wouldn't call that an abortion.

I think Coach’s point is that to be consistently good in Baseball we need to commit to being middle of the pack minimum in others.

We need to be able to feel like we could win any week in football and basketball before we start flushing money down the drain for baseball. Baseball lives paycheck to paycheck at best.

I'm done and see the writing on the wall. I've given Lemonis the benefit of the doubt until now, but I was skeptical when he called TA and asked him if he did the right thing by kicking the players off the field at one of his first practices after he got here. Too much golf, too good of friends with his assistants, etc. etc. He can get to the world series this year and I won't be back on board.

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Originally Posted by Brobi-wan

I think Coach?s point is that to be consistently good in Baseball we need to commit to being middle of the pack minimum in others.

We need to be able to feel like we could win any week in football and basketball before we start flushing money down the drain for baseball. Baseball lives paycheck to paycheck at best.

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I think right now, having a winning record overall against Quad 2 and 3 teams is not too much for fans to expect and ask for.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

It's fun if we are good in baseball, but if we are not, I don't even think about it. Meaning, I'm a normal sports fan, most don't care. It's not a knock on baseball, it's the sport I played but 99% of sports fans pay attention to football and men's basketball, that's it. If they can figure out a way to get a better coach and not waste any money, I'm fine with it. But there's no way we should be going in the hole for baseball.

Not trying to step on any toes, but all I care about is helping State achieve national recognition and to sustain that national recognition. The only way that can be done is football and men's basketball.

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And ironically baseball is the only national recognition we got so we need to keep that somehow IMHO.

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

And ironically baseball is the only national recognition we got so we need to keep that somehow IMHO.

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Fair point, we do have national recognition nationally among those that follow college baseball, no doubt. But that group (those that follow college baseball) is small compared to football and men's basketball.

So for example, here's some rough numbers:

college football college playoffs TV averaged about 22 million
college men's final four this year will probably shake out around 15 million, maybe 16 depending on who is in the finals
college baseball finals last year was about 3 million

Again, I hope we are good in baseball and I hope we win it all many, many times. We just have to be very careful investing in it becasue the ROI is simply not that here in the modern, super confernce, NIL era.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Fair point, we do have national recognition nationally among those that follow college baseball, no doubt. But that group (those that follow college baseball) is small compared to football and men's basketball.

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Everyone understands that, but its better to be a big fish in a small pond than not be a big fish in any pond. We either get our baseball program back to the status where it belongs or we can just accept that we are mediocre or worse in every men's sport we compete in that ANYONE cares about.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Everyone understands that, but its better to be a big fish in a small pond than not be a big fish in any pond. We either get our baseball program back to the status where it belongs or we can just accept that we are mediocre or worse in every men's sport we compete in that ANYONE cares about.

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Word.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Fair point, we do have national recognition nationally among those that follow college baseball, no doubt. But that group (those that follow college baseball) is small compared to football and men's basketball.

So for example, here's some rough numbers:

college football college playoffs TV averaged about 22 million
college men's final four this year will probably shake out around 15 million, maybe 16 depending on who is in the finals
college baseball finals last year was about 3 million

Again, I hope we are good in baseball and I hope we win it all many, many times. We just have to be very careful investing in it becasue the ROI is simply not that here in the modern, super confernce, NIL era.

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Yeah, I agree baseball isn't big like football and basketball but it has grown to a much closer third.

Speaking of ROI, we chose years ago to invest in baseball, our ROI ain't real good right now. We need to cash in on our Dude investment that is dropping like the stock market.

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

college football college playoffs TV averaged about 22 million
college men's final four this year will probably shake out around 15 million, maybe 16 depending on who is in the finals
college baseball finals last year was about 3 million.

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That's not really a fair deal tho. In the SEC, baseball is extremely popular and the best in the country. Other places dont watch because they are shitty. Women's basketball gets higher TV numbers but SEC baseball has higher attendance. College baseball is a Southeast/East Coast thing

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Fair point, we do have national recognition nationally among those that follow college baseball, no doubt. But that group (those that follow college baseball) is small compared to football and men's basketball.

So for example, here's some rough numbers:

college football college playoffs TV averaged about 22 million
college men's final four this year will probably shake out around 15 million, maybe 16 depending on who is in the finals
college baseball finals last year was about 3 million

Again, I hope we are good in baseball and I hope we win it all many, many times. We just have to be very careful investing in it becasue the ROI is simply not that here in the modern, super confernce, NIL era.

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I don't understand why MSU fans want to de-emphasize our baseball program. It doesn't make any sense because I don't know why some of our fans are making this either football and basketball or baseball. We need to strive to be really good in all three.

Whether those fans like it or not baseball is a big part of MSU athletics. Even if it breaks even there is so much positive that comes from the baseball program that it makes zero sense to bring it down.

Can we be great in all three? Well between 1996-1998 we went to Omaha twice, won the SEC West in football, and went to the Final Four. That doesn't even include the 10-2 football season in 1999.

Being good in baseball isn't a bad thing. Having an amazing baseball field isn't a bad thing. Having 10 MLB players and the hottest player in the game from MSU isn't a bad thing. Having a NC in baseball isn't a bad thing.

I'll tell you what is a bad thing- being bad in baseball.

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

Yeah, I agree baseball isn't big like football and basketball but it has grown to a much closer third.

Speaking of ROI, we chose years ago to invest in baseball, our ROI ain't real good right now. We need to cash in on our Dude investment that is dropping like the stock market.

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College baseball is the fastest growing form of the game right now- mostly because of social media. It's far more popular the minor league baseball. And we have all the resources to be great in it and we have fans that want to turn their nose up at it because they somehow think it will make us better in football and basketball if we don't give as much money to it.

Make it make sense.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I don't understand why MSU fans want to de-emphasize our baseball program. It doesn't make any sense because I don't know why some of our fans are making this either football and basketball or baseball. We need to strive to be really good in all three.

Whether those fans like it or not baseball is a big part of MSU athletics. Even if it breaks even there is so much positive that comes from the baseball program that it makes zero sense to bring it down.

Can we be great in all three? Well between 1996-1998 we went to Omaha twice, won the SEC West in football, and went to the Final Four. That doesn't even include the 10-2 football season in 1999.

Being good in baseball isn't a bad thing. Having an amazing baseball field isn't a bad thing. Having 10 MLB players and the hottest player in the game from MSU isn't a bad thing. Having a NC in baseball isn't a bad thing.

I'll tell you what is a bad thing- being bad in baseball.

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Amen.

There is no reason to have to choose between sports.

Yeah but lest it go unsaid, baseball has our ONLY natty and sells out the venue so, from that perspective, football and basketball suck a bag of, well, you know.