Jans, you need to tighten the hell up!

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Originally Posted by parabrave

The last 5 games Hubb has been the only player worth a crap. Every other player has disappeared/ Something else is going on that Jans needs to stamp out. The team has quit playing like a team and playing like butthurt junior high kids who are pissed they don't get the ball enough.

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Hubbard sucked yesterday. He had 2 back to back good games and the 10 shitty ones before that. Overall Hubbard has been a huge disappointment this year

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Originally Posted by MoreCowbell

Hubbard sucked yesterday. He had 2 back to back good games and the 10 shitty ones before that. Overall Hubbard has been a huge disappointment this year

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He's averaging 17.6/game. That's 4th in the conference. I don't know how that's disappointing. At a certain point, the others have to step up and score. You can't depend on Hubbard to score 30 every game. Teams double him off every screen, if he drives it's probably getting blocked, and with no one moving he has to attempt to create his own shot.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

He's averaging 17.6/game. That's 4th in the conference. I don't know how that's disappointing. At a certain point, the others have to step up and score. You can't depend on Hubbard to score 30 every game. Teams double him off every screen, if he drives it's probably getting blocked, and with no one moving he has to attempt to create his own shot.

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Have you looked at his stats on his volume shooting to get his 17.6 ppg each game this year? Have you been to games and watched how many points his man gets? FL, he was 5 for 15 to get his with many coming late in the game when it was out of reach and this is a pattern in several games this year. There are not enough shots left for others after he takes his and this may well be part of the losing problem. We don't have any ball movement with him at the point. After the center comes out to the head of the circle to take the ball, I have often seen all five players outside the three point line with the the other four watching Hubbard take the shot after he gets the ball back. Even Jans said after the FL loss that the guys weren't in sync and weren't running the offense. We have issues.

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Have you looked at his stats on his volume shooting to get his 17.6 ppg each game this year? Have you been to games and watched how many points his man gets? FL, he was 5 for 15 to get his with many coming late in the game when it was out of reach and this is a pattern in many games this year. There are not enough shots left for others after he takes his and this may well be part of the losing problem.

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Yep and I've watched other guy's man score just as many. It's not Hubbard defensively. It's everyone. And that even includes Cam Matthews. No one on this team is playing defense. Hubbard at least makes up for it by shooting. No one else will do that. Harris misses every open shot. Melendez passes up open shots to drive into double teams. Matthews turns it over once he gets past 3 dribbles. So that leaves Kugel coming off the bench and Hubbard to shoot.

We have to score because we suck at defense. Nothing is going to change that this year. So we really need to stop focusing on defense. Just shoot.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

He's averaging 17.6/game. That's 4th in the conference. I don't know how that's disappointing. At a certain point, the others have to step up and score. You can't depend on Hubbard to score 30 every game. Teams double him off every screen, if he drives it's probably getting blocked, and with no one moving he has to attempt to create his own shot.

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Not all 17.6 are created equal. He needs to upgrade the rest of his game besides points on volume shooting. Needs to get better percentage wise, passing, finishing at rim and especially perimeter defense. Big things you need from your PG especially at 5-9. He just has not made that jump this year and Jans built this team and roster around the assumption Hubbard was going to become that guy.

Our team is the land of misfit toys. Right now- they just dont fit and nobody is in sync. Jan has to figure out something to make the puzzle pieces fit better. Thats where we are

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Yep and I've watched other guy's man score just as many. It's not Hubbard defensively. It's everyone. And that even includes Cam Matthews. No one on this team is playing defense. Hubbard at least makes up for it by shooting. No one else will do that. Harris misses every open shot. Melendez passes up open shots to drive into double teams. Matthews turns it over once he gets past 3 dribbles. So that leaves Kugel coming off the bench and Hubbard to shoot.

We have to score because we suck at defense. Nothing is going to change that this year. So we really need to stop focusing on defense. Just shoot.

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You totally left out Murphy in your analysis. He has been mr. double double recently and I dare say plays some good defense inside. Without his level of play, things would be much worse.

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