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They clearly weren?t from PA because we all knew up here he was a joke. PSU fans all around here were thanking me for our staff taking him for underachieving with the talent level they had. I knew it was a disaster from day 1Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Croom had Barry, Joe had Saquon. A lot of similarities with those 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
Worst hire in MSU history. Thanks Cohen.
The man basically got fired at his last two HC jobs before coming here. He had success at one little school. It was an awful hire!Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
Yuup, SloMo rode Saquon, the best player in college at the time, onto a head coaching job and many millions of dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Yeah, I know a Penn State alum with some strong ties. He told me Franklin let Moorhead run the offense his first year. Five games in and it was an absolute shit show. So, Franklin told Joe to pick his best ten plays and that's all he could call the entire game. Saquon made Joe look like an offensive guru.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
In hindsight we should have hired a coach that ran an offense similar to Dan's that fit Fitzgerald or gone ahead and hired Leach and brought in Gardner Minchew and allowed Nick to transfer out.
I think Croom was actually better.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
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Originally Posted by Coach34
Oh, it got even better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Bo said Arkansas should have kept Fat Bert. He thought they were idiots for firing him b/c it led to Chad Morris.
Bert tried to turn Arkansas into Wisconsin. It didn't work.
Bert is a good coach- it just didnt work at UPig. He went and did a year with Belichek and it helped him. He is doing a great job at Illinois right now
Could it translate down South? Not sure
Funny how we made that mistake in two of three hires. Have an offense that works, with experienced returning players and aren't a fit for the offense the coach you want to hire runs? Hire that man. When Dan left, how easy would it have been to hire a spread option coach who runs a very similar scheme?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Hard to believe someone can get a sports talk show with takes like that. Keeping him would have simply meant that Bert would have run them in the ground instead of Morris.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
It would have been probably fairly easy to find someone like a Charlie Strong or Gary Andersen looking at the Urban Meyer tree. Probably could have gotten Rich Rodriguez although he was fired for extramarital issues and Cohen wasn't going there after Cann.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Arnett was fired in part for lying about what we were going to do on offense if the rumors are true. That included misleading people like Keenum who wanted to keep a version of the Air Raid to fit the personnel Leach had recruited. So if that's true at least MSU learned their lesson.
Do you know for a fact he didn?t reach out to those candidates?Quote:
Originally Posted by msu15
FACT!Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Yuup, as soon as Keenum saw that Arnept was firing the air raid coaches, he should have jumped in immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Oh I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Absolutely. Leach would've taken it for one. His agent was the one that reached out to Cohen in 2020. Mike wasn't even on Cohen's radar after he got caught with his pants down when Keenum vetoed Sark.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
Bert is a prototypical Big10 coach in my opinion. Illinois is heaven for him. He can keep the Illinois talent that would normally go to Wisconsin or Minnesota.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
According to Altmyer, the Illini players don't care for berts personality but say he does know what he's doing and he will continue to win there.