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Because of players like Dazmin James at UPig. Didnt do shit all season at UPig- gets a chance in the bowl game and catches 3 balls for 137 yards. Instead of appreciating the start and being one of UPig's guys next season- he is entering the portal to try and get some extra cash from somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
State will never keep breakout players or any significant talent. They will move on to the blue blood higher bidder once they show something playing for us.
Would have been better than Arnett and Barbay.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
The majority of the ones we lose it seems to me are guys going back home like Zavion Thomas or Coleman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yes- Dillon went home to Washington and Woody went home to USCQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I thought Woody is from Georgia??!???Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I was being a smartass. They left us for better placesQuote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Yup. That they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Come on now. Your example is 2 RBs in an extremely RB unfriendly offense and one of those 2 RBs had a very public disagreement with the Leach right before it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yeah we will always lose players to the portal, but we should (and can this offseason) be a net positive from it and in theory be more competitive than we have been in our glorious, win filled, past that includes the legendary 1941 SEC championship and the 2014 Orange Bowl appearance.
We have been historic bottom dwellers our entire program lifespan, we have to embrace change and try to take advantage of new era protocol
RaRa left for Georgia
I can name others but no need. State football is will be a constant fight for 6-6 from this day forward as long as constant transfers are allowed
Unfortunately this is true. <sigh>Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yes. The transfer portal is killing us way more than NIL. Something has to be done to stop the transferring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Nothing is going to be done. We. Are. A. Baseball. School.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Yeah, I'm talking about our fans, not the coaching staff (at last).Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
It seems like our fans overwhelmingly hate NIL and the portal, and fans of other schools with our level of prestige see it as the way out of mediocrity. Or maybe I'm overreacting to a small sample size.
Doesn't really matter because anyone we have lost we have replaced with someone in the portal as we are doing now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Really it's a matter of time before we get completely up to speed with NIL because Cohen didn't know what he was doing.
See our top 6 portal class that we have put together after a 2-10 season.
I think many of our fans are uncomfortable with it. And I think it's because of MSU's football culture set by the athletic department in the past. MSU has long discouraged fans to pay for players even though yes it happened. But when our fans were caught in the act I can't remember a time in the past where MSU stood up for the University. team, and booster and instead cooperated with the NCAA and collected "exemplary compliance" trophies while actually penalizing the team worse than the NCAA would have in some cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Basically the attitude for years was "Yes we can play dirty and build a good football team but eventually it's all going to get taken away by the NCAA once we get caught so it's really not worth it."
It also allows for some very convenient excuses for our large group of fans that like to bitch just to bitch when they don't really have control of the situation. Now as it is fans have much more control because if a fan bitches and they aren't giving money they are at fault to a small degree. So when they bitch MSU fans can shoot back "Well if you don't like it donate more". There is a lot less on the fan when they can conveniently point to LT, Jackie, Dan, Leach, Arnett, Croom, etc. for screwing things up. The rants aren't so comfortable when the shoe is on the other foot.
I think that is changing based on the recent donation figures though. And it's not like you have to sell a kidney every month to participate in NIL. Anything helps.
Contrast that to Ole Miss where paying players is essentially part of their football tradition and culture. It's not surprising that they adapted to NIL a lot quicker than MSU. Eventually I think it's going to level out though because MSU has always had the potential to spend. It's just never really been tapped into until now.
Because our fan and alumni base is poor and in the poorest stateQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Dude we have no prestigeQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
No it is because the deficit it insurmountable and most of us realize it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
If I go write a check for $25,000 tomorrow and give it to football NIL what tangible difference would that make? Other SEC school have at least 20x the manpower and money we have and no one trusts the leadership in charge.
Plus the thought of my hard earned money going to some kid I do not know, who will be here for 5 months, to play 17ing football then leave absolutely infuriates me
Shit, our last 2 ADs-graduates, athlete, coach, stepfather MSU legend, both ditched here to go to rival schools. Cohen leaving should tell you everything you need to know about how bad our situation is. Them leaving does not give me a good feeling about where we are headed.
NIL also has consequences... you allow an unathletic donor kid on your team for money and then allow the kid on the sideline out of pity... then the Georgia Rudy helps ND in a key moment
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Our fan and alumni base is more cheap than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell