And we will continue to be losers. Nothing changes. At least I got to enjoy the Dan M years. We will never be that good again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
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And we will continue to be losers. Nothing changes. At least I got to enjoy the Dan M years. We will never be that good again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
From what some are reporting, I would not expect Jaheim Oatis to be a Bulldog next year.
Shocker!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We may not be as far off from Oatis as some, including myself, were led to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Get all of the DL. All of them. Worst group in both sides.
Then get all of the OL. Second worst group.
Hate to say this but Steve's report yesterday mentioned multiple Juco guys. I'm afraid what that means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
We're probably done with HS guys in recruiting, at least any new HS guys. There's still 5-6 guys out there that we're after and would take their commitment. We are going to recruit JUCO and portal the rest of the way. Nothing wrong with that in doses. Unfortunately with the situation we are in, we have to go that route for the next year. Right now, we need guys that can play and contribute next year. And I'll be honest, some of these JUCO guys (Hardy, Mitchell, Coleman, Odera) would play and probably start for us this year. Those guys are good. I mean South Carolina placed Hardy in JUCO and Mitchell was at Bama last year. Coleman was just a slipped through the cracks guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
I am not in any way saying that is a sustainable formula. It wasn't in the old days and it is certainly not in this new age. However, there's still talent to be found at the JUCO level. Now, will you be finding the next Montez Sweat? Probably not. But you can still find some solid depth guys and even a starter, if it's a guy like Hardy.
On the portal, that picture will become REALLY CLEAR in the next 10 days. I would not be surprised if we had some portal visitors this weekend unofficially visit.
The jucos are needed badly. There's only one I question and he's not that big a deal. We'll sign some portal guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
Who's the one you question. Because I question one too, but I don't think it's the same guy. Mine is Clinton, but you seem pretty high on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Going full JUCO is so MSU football.
I don't follow recruiting anymore, but I figured the transfer rules would've killed juco talent. Guys can just go to a lesser D1 program now without sitting out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
There is still talent in JUCO. The transfer rules changing doesn't mean that there still aren't late bloomers. There are still players who cannot get into school academically. There are still players who are bounce backs from other programs. Of our recruits in JUCO that have committed, Zavion Hardy was placed by South Carolina. Tony Mitchell played as a true freshman at Bama and was at EMCC because of some questionable decision making while driving. Mason Clinton is a bounce back from Louisiana. Lakendrick James is a guy who wasn't highly recruited out of high school but has been a star at Co-Lin.
I understand what they are trying to do with all these JUCO offers and JUCO commitments but I do not think this is substantial. I am hoping that this a one year deal. I do think that the portal and JUCO goes hand in hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It's a one year deal. We know we need immediate help and depth and AT WORST the JUCO guys provide depth and guys that can immediately play snaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Face it- there are still very talented athletes that are academically challenged (this was called dumb in the old days). Juco is still a comforting home for these guys
I've taught kids that cant pass lunch
There's still good players in Juco. You dont want to rely too heavily on it, but we don't have much of a choice at the moment
Except that's not what we're doing. Many are just depth pieces and lord blinked we got no damn depth at all. If we don't get portal guys, to get more reps, then I'll be surprised but FR do us little good next season. They need to redshirt mostly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Well since they have thrown out all of the recruiting laws why not bring back Prop B players?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Truthfully, unless you're a high 4 or 5 star talent juco is a better option. Just hopping in the portal with no film for coaches is no bueno. Coaches can't be successful guessing on development.
One of the best ways to show development and get film is through juco. Sitting on the bench attempting to transfer is no longer cutting it.
What options do we have at this point? Should we go back to the Crooms model of stealing Alabama A&M and Alabama State’s prized recruits on signing day?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State