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10-28-2024, 09:46 AM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

We need to find a coordinator that can do more with less. Durkin fits that mold.

Was he the DC at aTm??? I ask this because no staff in the country did less with more than that entire Jimbo staff. They had as much talent as Bama and Georgia and went 8-4 or worse consistently.
10-28-2024, 09:47 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by KB21

Kane Wommack is struggling with Alabama level talent on defense. He's not one that I would want, particularly at the talent deficit we are currently at.

With Mack Brown looking to be out at North Carolina after the season, this could open up Geoff Collins (and Randy Clement for the OL).

Kane Wommack does not like MSU. It goes all the way back to when his Dad was DC at OM.

I'm really surprised no one reached out to Geoff b/c he was showing a lot of interest in the job in interviews and social media.
10-28-2024, 10:08 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Yeah, I was conflating to things, agreement with you and an argument for why some people are down on Durkin's defense at AU.

But, experience counts. An experienced DC with a decent track record and we might be 3-5 right now.

I think we'd be 4-4 right now with an experienced DC. I think we beat ASU, Toledo, and one of the home conference games we've had.
10-28-2024, 10:09 AM
KB21

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I think we'd be 4-4 right now with an experienced DC. I think we beat ASU, Toledo, and one of the home conference games we've had.

I just don't see that as even remotely possible with the talent level we have. Coaching hasn't cost us three wins.
10-28-2024, 10:11 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Kane Wommack does not like MSU. It goes all the way back to when his Dad was DC at OM.

I'm really surprised no one reached out to Geoff b/c he was showing a lot of interest in the job in interviews and social media.

Geoff was showing interest in any job. People are going to have to give Lebby time. He came in and had to start putting a staff together as soon as he could since the early signing period was two weeks away and the portal was open. He went with who he knew and who he was familiar with. We struck out on some candidates too(Joe Jon Finley, Randy Clements, Durkin, etc.). Lebby now has had almost a year to get his feet under him and go find some better quality assts. I would expect Clements will be here next fall.
10-28-2024, 10:13 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by KB21

I just don't see that as even remotely possible with the talent level we have. Coaching hasn't cost us three wins.

It definitely cost us ASU and Toledo. You could make an argument on the others but coaching cost us those two for sure.
10-28-2024, 10:15 AM
KB21

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

It definitely cost us ASU and Toledo. You could make an argument on the others but coaching cost us those two for sure.

I think our talent level was exposed in those games much more than any perceived coaching deficiencies.
10-28-2024, 10:21 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by KB21

I think our talent level was exposed in those games much more than any perceived coaching deficiencies.

I think it was more exposed against SEC teams. Had we just committed to stopping Skattebo, we beat ASU. I still don't know what the heck we were trying to do against Toledo, but there were holes you could drive a mack truck through and receivers running wide open.
10-28-2024, 10:30 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I think we'd be 4-4 right now with an experienced DC. I think we beat ASU, Toledo, and one of the home conference games we've had.

I don't, we may have one or two more but that's it. The lack of talent right now is the factor that is unavoidable, there are just not many SEC football players out there.
10-28-2024, 10:33 AM
Brobi-wan

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

I don't, we may have one or two more but that's it.

We would’ve beaten ASU. We barely lost to them and that included a 60 yard pass called back and a scoop and score we gave up. I don’t know that anyone on this board could have schemed a more inept game against ASU than Hutz did
10-28-2024, 10:35 AM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Brobi-wan

We would’ve beaten ASU. We barely lost to them and that included a 60 yard pass called back and a scoop and score we gave up. I don’t know that anyone on this board could have schemed a more inept game against ASU than Hutz did

That's one more.
10-28-2024, 10:55 AM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

That's one more.

I don't believe we have lesser talent than Toledo. With a DC we should be 4-5 heading into the TN with an outside shot of getting 5 wins (Mizz is not nearly as good as their ranking). However, if we don't do something about this defense UMASS could be a problem for us.
10-28-2024, 11:01 AM
Matt3467

UCF just fired their DC in his first year. Wish we'd have the guts to do the same.
10-28-2024, 11:02 AM
HoopsDawg

It's funny how MSU fans obsess over a mediocre candidate. Enough with the Durkin talk. There are 10 other guys just as good or better we could get.
10-28-2024, 11:03 AM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

He wasn't good at Memphis. And I think that they were hoping Hutzler would be a placeholder until we can maybe get Durkin.

You don't give a "placeholder" a 3 year contract.
10-28-2024, 11:05 AM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by KB21

I will repeat that Hutzler isn't the biggest issue with the defense, but if we are going to make changes on the defensive staff, then Jeff should consider going with the Flyover defense that was basically created to allow programs in areas that don't have fertile recruiting grounds to be able to defend the Leach and Briles systems in the Big 12. It's a defend the pass first scheme, and it's becoming more and more prevalent as teams realize that passing the football is the key to winning.

I actually agree with this. Our safeties aren't great tacklers anyway so no idea why we don't play our best cover guys in the secondary. Tired of seeing slow safeties one on one with WRs.
10-28-2024, 11:12 AM
KB21

Regardless of what scheme we choose to run, we don't have the current talent to run any scheme effectively at this point.
10-28-2024, 11:17 AM
MBDawg601

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Originally Posted by KB21

Regardless of what scheme we choose to run, we don't have the current talent to run any scheme effectively at this point.

We should never punt, onside kick when we score. That is the only way.
10-28-2024, 11:24 AM
Mjoelner34

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Originally Posted by MBDawg601

We should never punt, onside kick when we score. That is the only way.

....and play man and bring the kitchen sink every play on D. If it's a run play, maybe one of our blitzers accidentally hits a run gap.
10-28-2024, 11:28 AM
MBDawg601

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Originally Posted by Mjoelner34

....and play man and bring the kitchen sink every play on D. If it's a run play, maybe one of our blitzers accidentally hits a run gap.

I like your style. play 2 DL, 7 LBs (speed and mean as junkyard dogs) and 2 DBs.

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