Wilson told us to get ****ed. And his career tanked. Haaaahaaaaaaaaaaa
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Wilson told us to get ****ed. And his career tanked. Haaaahaaaaaaaaaaa
Can't fix stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Will will land somewhere as an OC eventually. It'll all depend on whether he chooses to relocate his family to another state or not.
Yeah. Maybe Ole Miss's next coach will make him the OC. You never know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
It was Anyone, Anywhere, Anytime! Except Mississippi State. After the 1990 game, State admin said no more playing USM in Hattiesburg. USM wouldn't agree, so the series was canceled. But State agreed to play AT Troy and AT UAB and AT La Tech, so the buzzards claimed State was scared to play them. After State agreed to play AT UMass, the embarrassment reached a new high!Quote:
Originally Posted by memsu06
I hope State never agrees to play at Tech or Troy or UMass, or UConn. But with the new stadium in Birmingham and that being a fertile recruiting ground, playing UAB there makes sense.
And of course State is such a low level SEC Football program, we open 2025 in Hattiesburg and 2027 IN Troy! How ridiculous! And State plays AT USM in 2030! Wow! Is our administration already preparing to move down to the Sunbelt?😳😳😳
Missouri just played at UMass THIS year. How embarrassing!!! Good grief.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
It’s gonna happen more and more. We paid for Toledo to come in and kick our ass. Smaller programs like us in the P4 have to do it. Ole Miss played at Tulane last year as did K State this season. Duke played at MTSU. Virginia played at Coastal, and Arizona State played at Texas State.
Rick Cleveland was the President of MSU won't play USM because they're afraid to lose. Then 2014 happened and we won 49-0 and it should have been worse if it wasn't for some turnovers on our part.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
But yeah- I used to say Anyone, Anywhere, Anytime! (Except Starkville). I think one big issue in the series was USM played Alabama every year in Tuscaloosa or Birmingham for years. And this wasn't Nick Saban Alabama. This was Mike DuBose Alabama. If they were OK playing in Tuscaloosa every year why on Earth would MSU go play them in Hattiesburg? USM also has a history of price gouging MSU fans (and MSU and Ole Miss fans in baseball). It's obvious why but it's still shitty when they do it because they tend to go overboard with it.
Byrne had scheduled that game at Troy and I think Stricklin did UMass which we played at Gilette Stadium making it cool and very different from playing at USM and at the same time Byrne re-newed the USM series with Keenum kind of pushing it to happen. UAB to me is on par with USM except for the fact that it's in Birmingham which makes it more palatable.
I don't mind playing USM in football but at the same time it should be a once every 4-6 years thing and not an every year thing like we did up until 1990.
We had to play at UMASS because Tulane cancelled their game with us to take a bigger paycheck from Oklahoma. So we had to scramble and had to agree to go play UMASS. Stricklin was the one who renewed the USM thing and we had to agree to play there ONCE(2015) and after they made us play at 9 PM we said we'd never go there again. But of course, Cohen gave them a home game against us as his parting gift to Mississippi State. I had no idea we had to travel to Troy til just now. So that's another nice gift Cohen left us with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Yea, we've had some mucking forons doing scheduling. The UMAss thing was a result of us doing a deal where we got the last home game with TUlane and the buyout was too small.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I've got no problem doing 2 for 1's with G4 schools in nearby recruiting areas in decent places. I think that's just something we have to live with. I would say USA, UAB, Memphis, Tulane and USM are obvious candidates. Houston would be another good one although I guess for now the Big 12 counts as not G4. ULL is ok but ideally would not be playing them in Lafayette. Maybe a home and home with their "home" being the superdome would be ok, especially since Tulane is not playing there anymore.
Playing at a place like Troy should require the AD to explain why we ended up in that situation and couldn't manage a 2 for 1 somewhere decent.
It was even more stupid than it seemed at the time. I can't remember their exact tie-ins, but they basically needed to go undefeated to go to a bowl game b etter than the ones they were getting into with 7 wins. It was either New Orleans, Memphis, and maybe Shreveport. When Fedora won 10 games, they were still going to the same bowl and they worked a deal for them to go to the freaking Hawaii bowl, which a lot of the players bitched about because it was too expensive for family to go to. Can't remember what allowed them to do that, whether it was the bowls agreeing to ignore tie-ins or what, but basically they needed to be the best G5 team in the nation and in the top 16 to upgrade their bowl beyond what Bowers was taking them to.Quote:
Originally Posted by memsu06
Surely Wilson wasn't so dumb that he actually turned us down to wait for Indiana?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I completely get the idea of being a coordinator for a blueblood until you get the opportunity to be head coach at a school that's relatively easy to win at. Worked pretty great for Kirby. But what in the hell are you doing if you pass down any job and then go to Indiana?
Oh it wasn't that he wanted the Indiana job. He thought he was too good for little ole Mississippi State. He didn't get the Indiana job until 2011. He just thought his star was brighter than it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
The difference is Troy is a somewhat relevant football program compared to USM right now. Heck, Louisiana-Monroe is more relevant right now than USM. But State ain't playing at Monroe. As far as recruiting, playing in Hattiesburg doesn't help recruiting one bit. We already recruit that area. Now playing at Tulane makes sense. Recruiting sense. Playing at Troy. Nope. Playing at Army-West Point or Annapolis would be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Or go play Georgia State. Atlanta is a massive recruiting ground and you'd get to play in Atlanta.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Or Rice & Houston in Houston for recruiting and South Alabama in Mobile for recruiting. We do pretty well in lower Alabama and the western Florida panhandle. But Jonesboro, Ar. Is a hard NO!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Well Houston is P5 now but Rice could work. We just have to stop with the only playing MS schools. It goes back to my thoughts on we need to be recruiting OOS students at a similar clip as OM.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Not sure I completely agree with this statement. His w/l's at Buzzard U were very bad but he had been a successful HC at every other stop he's made. I'm not sure in this day and age that anyone is going to win at USM. At least nobody has done it since Bower with the exception of Monken but all of that was pre NIL. Love him or hate him (or Bobby either one) but he's going to an excellent OC for someone. He'll land on his feet pretty quickly. Let's see what the next guy does in Hattiesburg. I'm guessing it won't be much different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I think Hall would be great at a place like Delta State. I think he would be an OK OC for someone. I think that's his ceiling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Is Danny Boy talking to USM?
They do have a target!