Sunday Night Thoughts-We May Have Found A QB Between The Hedges Pt. 2

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10-14-2024, 02:57 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

So, Lebby shouldn't bring in a 5* QB he recruited to Oklahoma b/c he wants to come play for him at State?

Littrell is the problem at Oklahoma, not Jackson Arnold.

Again, our fan base gets too caught up in kids. He had a good game and now we're acting like he's the second coming. A list of Mississippi State QBs that had good games and ended up nothing burgers: Aries Nelson, Kyle York, Josh Riddell, Damian Williams, Keyteon Thompson, Tommy Stevens, KJ Costello.....the list could go on.

Is the kid good? Yes. Is he still REALLY raw? Yes. He can throw the deep ball really well, but you can ask anyone around the program and most thought he wouldn't be ready to take the reigns until his RS Sophomore season.

If you HAVE THE CHANCE to bring in Arnold, you do it. If you have the chance to bring in Preston Stone at SMU, you do it. If you have the chance to bring in Emmett Brown at SJSU, you do it. If you have a chance to increase the talent on your team, YOU DO IT. Period. End of Discussion. I mean should we tell Kamario Taylor to look elsewhere because Van Buren looked good? No. It's the same situation with a transfer.
10-14-2024, 03:35 PM
cheewgumm

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Again, our fan base gets too caught up in kids. He had a good game and now we're acting like he's the second coming. A list of Mississippi State QBs that had good games and ended up nothing burgers: Aries Nelson, Kyle York, Josh Riddell, Damian Williams, Keyteon Thompson, Tommy Stevens, KJ Costello.....the list could go on.

Is the kid good? Yes. Is he still REALLY raw? Yes. He can throw the deep ball really well, but you can ask anyone around the program and most thought he wouldn't be ready to take the reigns until his RS Sophomore season.

If you HAVE THE CHANCE to bring in Arnold, you do it. If you have the chance to bring in Preston Stone at SMU, you do it. If you have the chance to bring in Emmett Brown at SJSU, you do it. If you have a chance to increase the talent on your team, YOU DO IT. Period. End of Discussion. I mean should we tell Kamario Taylor to look elsewhere because Van Buren looked good? No. It's the same situation with a transfer.

I'm not "caught up in the kids".

Our fanbase is usually right about stuff, so I'll trust it....again.

Welcome aboard, Arnold. goodbye MVB.
10-14-2024, 03:42 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

I'm not "caught up in the kids".

Our fanbase is usually right about stuff, so I'll trust it....again.

Welcome aboard, Arnold. goodbye MVB.

I don't think MVB transfers. He was literally committed to Oregon and decommitted to come play for Lebby. Arnold, Stone, Mateer, Brown, etc. is only going to be here one year. You still get MVB as a RS Sophomore just like the plan always was. Nothing has changed. And hey, the kid may beat Arnold, Stone, Mateer, Brown, etc. out. Or hell, Kamario Taylor could come in and beat them both out.
10-14-2024, 04:03 PM
TrapGame

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheewgumm

I'm not "caught up in the kids".

Our fanbase is usually right about stuff, so I'll trust it....again.

Welcome aboard, Arnold. goodbye MVB.

If MVB can't take Arnold, or any other QB, coming in then he ain't it. Nobody should be guaranteed a spot. You work your ass off for it every day.
10-14-2024, 04:11 PM
cheewgumm

Sounds good. Hopefully we have a new 5 star qb.

Cowboys should sign Tom Brady as well. Dak needs some competition. It would do him good.
10-14-2024, 04:22 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Again, our fan base gets too caught up in kids. He had a good game and now we're acting like he's the second coming. A list of Mississippi State QBs that had good games and ended up nothing burgers: Aries Nelson, Kyle York, Josh Riddell, Damian Williams, Keyteon Thompson, Tommy Stevens, KJ Costello.....the list could go on.

Is the kid good? Yes. Is he still REALLY raw? Yes. He can throw the deep ball really well, but you can ask anyone around the program and most thought he wouldn't be ready to take the reigns until his RS Sophomore season.

If you HAVE THE CHANCE to bring in Arnold, you do it. If you have the chance to bring in Preston Stone at SMU, you do it. If you have the chance to bring in Emmett Brown at SJSU, you do it. If you have a chance to increase the talent on your team, YOU DO IT. Period. End of Discussion. I mean should we tell Kamario Taylor to look elsewhere because Van Buren looked good? No. It's the same situation with a transfer.

All of this!
10-15-2024, 08:13 AM
tcdog70

Just hope Kamario Taylor signs with Us. he can do it all. 6'4" 215 now. can run and throw.
10-15-2024, 09:17 AM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

Just hope Kamario Taylor signs with Us. he can do it all. 6'4" 215 now. can run and throw.

He's locked in. Jeff took care of that one.
10-15-2024, 12:35 PM
Pancho

I've seen him live the past 2years but only on video this season and he simply does some things that are almost not human. I think he's a once in about every 40 yr type athlete who will make a different the moment he steps onto the field.
10-15-2024, 12:58 PM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Again, our fan base gets too caught up in kids. He had a good game and now we're acting like he's the second coming. A list of Mississippi State QBs that had good games and ended up nothing burgers: Aries Nelson, Kyle York, Josh Riddell, Damian Williams, Keyteon Thompson, Tommy Stevens, KJ Costello.....the list could go on.

Is the kid good? Yes. Is he still REALLY raw? Yes. He can throw the deep ball really well, but you can ask anyone around the program and most thought he wouldn't be ready to take the reigns until his RS Sophomore season.

If you HAVE THE CHANCE to bring in Arnold, you do it. If you have the chance to bring in Preston Stone at SMU, you do it. If you have the chance to bring in Emmett Brown at SJSU, you do it. If you have a chance to increase the talent on your team, YOU DO IT. Period. End of Discussion. I mean should we tell Kamario Taylor to look elsewhere because Van Buren looked good? No. It's the same situation with a transfer.

Had to look up Nelson since I haven't heard of him but when did Kyle York have a good game? The others I can see but York is an odd one. Omarr Conner maybe.
10-15-2024, 01:16 PM
Pancho

Didn't York play only due to Fant being suspended?
10-15-2024, 02:04 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

Sounds good. Hopefully we have a new 5 star qb.

Cowboys should sign Tom Brady as well. Dak needs some competition. It would do him good.

Dak doesn't need competition. He needs a supporting cast.
10-15-2024, 02:12 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

Had to look up Nelson since I haven't heard of him but when did Kyle York have a good game? The others I can see but York is an odd one. Omarr Conner maybe.

I meant Mike Henig. Sorry for that one. Got my early 2000s MSU QBs mixed up on that one. Also did y'all know it was Henig and not Hening? I've been saying Hening for the last like 16 or 17 years.
10-15-2024, 02:22 PM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

Had to look up Nelson since I haven't heard of him but when did Kyle York have a good game? The others I can see but York is an odd one. Omarr Conner maybe.

Didn't York have a good game against Ark or someone like that?
10-15-2024, 02:24 PM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I meant Mike Henig. Sorry for that one. Got my early 2000s MSU QBs mixed up on that one. Also did y'all know it was Henig and not Hening? I've been saying Hening for the last like 16 or 17 years.

Those years really take me back. Boy did we suck but I enjoyed watching us anyway.
10-15-2024, 02:26 PM
Matt3467

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

Didn't York have a good game against Ark or someone like that?

Looking at the game logs here: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...ork-1/gamelog/

Maybe the Memphis game although he did have a career high 2td passes in a loss vs Ark that year.
10-15-2024, 02:31 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

Those years really take me back. Boy did we suck but I enjoyed watching us anyway.

To this day I don't know how I did that sober. We were AWFUL. Like offensive ineptitude the SEC hasn't seen since.
10-15-2024, 02:33 PM
TrapGame

Didn't York start b/c Mike Henig got hurt and he actually could make a forward pass that wasn't intercepted or five yards off target?
10-15-2024, 04:00 PM
RockyDog

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

Sounds good. Hopefully we have a new 5 star qb.

Cowboys should sign Tom Brady as well. Dak needs some competition. It would do him good.

You are seriously equating a NFL QB that his team has committed $200+ mm to a QB room at a lower tier SEC school with a true frosh Qb who has 2 whole starts under his belt?

We REALLY do have one of the dumbest fan bases in Murica
10-15-2024, 04:18 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Didn't York start b/c Mike Henig got hurt and he actually could make a forward pass that wasn't intercepted or five yards off target?

When I say I've tried to block out 2002-2008 from my mind I mean it. Unfortunately I have almost a photographic memory so I'll never be able to get Maine, Cadillac and Ronnie Brown running all over us, Pat White and Steve Slaton running all over us, 3-2, or Troy State out of my head.

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