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12-30-2023, 07:35 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Nah, players weren't opting out 5-6 years ago.

Leonard Fornette and Christian McCaffery were the first bowl opt outs in 2016 - so yeah, they were opting out 5-6 years ago.

And I've thought since at least 1990 that we needed a playoff.
12-30-2023, 07:36 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

I believe this has been one the best seasons ever, next year will be even better. For from being ruined, better now than ever. The non championship bowls have always been an exhibition, don't get too caught up in them.

Explain please
12-30-2023, 07:37 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Leonard Fornette and Christian McCaffery were the first bowl opt outs in 2016 - so yeah, they were opting out 5-6 years ago.

And I've thought since at least 1990 that we needed a playoff.

Ok, Florida state had about 20 today for a NY6 bowl. You really think you're making a point?
12-30-2023, 07:56 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Ok, Florida state had about 20 today for a NY6 bowl. You really think you're making a point?

Yes - players opted out of a meaningless game. Who cares. The bowls have always been pointless. They became more pointless when they figured out it was good to actually match up 1 v 2 and have a real National Champ.

Playoffs will keep at teams intact and give us 11 meaningful, likely exciting football games next December. I'm all for expanding to 32 teams like DII has.
12-30-2023, 08:02 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

Yes - players opted out of a meaningless game. Who cares. The bowls have always been pointless. They became more pointless when they figured out it was good to actually match up 1 v 2 and have a real National Champ.

Playoffs will keep at teams intact and give us 11 meaningful, likely exciting football games next December. I'm all for expanding to 32 teams like DII has.

If bowls with no national championship ramifications are meaningless, then what's the meaning of 2 7-4 teams playing in the last week? Why isn't it acceptable to sit that game out but it is for a bowl?
12-30-2023, 08:06 PM
Coach34

The conference championship games are not going to be taken away. The SEC makes wayyyy too damn much money with it to abandon it. Especially now with a bigger conference- just makes it more prestigious
12-30-2023, 08:07 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If bowls with no national championship ramifications are meaningless, then what's the meaning of 2 7-4 teams playing in the last week? Why isn't it acceptable to sit that game out but it is for a bowl?

We've had future draft picks sit out of late season games they could have played in to save themselves.
12-30-2023, 08:08 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Coach34

The conference championship games are not going to be taken away. The SEC makes wayyyy too damn much money with it to abandon it. Especially now with a bigger conference- just makes it more prestigious

Since pac 12 is gone, let the P4 champions get the bye in the playoffs. That gives it meaning.
12-30-2023, 08:10 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We've had future draft picks sit out of late season games they could have played in to save themselves.

I don't recall any healthy scratches here for the egg bowl. If there were, don't tell me bc I will lose respect for the player and the HC
12-30-2023, 08:12 PM
chef dixon

Folks are hilarious. This doesn't mean "crybabies" or proves/validates the process. Why the hell should play in a game is truly doesn't matter when they were already told all their other games they thought mattered didn't?

All this does is further illustrate the entire thing is a joke.
12-30-2023, 08:14 PM
BrunswickDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If bowls with no national championship ramifications are meaningless, then what's the meaning of 2 7-4 teams playing in the last week? Why isn't it acceptable to sit that game out but it is for a bowl?

I'm sure it will start happening. You don't want players to opt out, win. Is it any different than a team tanking to get a better draft pick? Or benching a player so they don't have to play a performance bonus? Or to be college specific - start playing the younger guys so they have more experience for next year? If I recall correctly when our season started looking shaky you were a huge proponent of playing Parson because, guess what, our games were meaningless and getting Parson experience could matter.
12-30-2023, 08:17 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I don't recall any healthy scratches here for the egg bowl. If there were, don't tell me bc I will lose respect for the player and the HC

Cam Dantzler sat out the game before the Egg Bowl in 2019 when he 100% could have played. There have been a few others here and there. "Business decisions" are now very much part of college football. It's hard to blame some with 50-100 million in their future on the line
12-30-2023, 08:19 PM
msstate7

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12-30-2023, 08:21 PM
BankerDog

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I don't recall any healthy scratches here for the egg bowl. If there were, don't tell me bc I will lose respect for the player and the HC

Cam Dantzler?s year he hardly ever played except the the big games.
12-30-2023, 08:25 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

UGA is the best team in the country

How??? They struggled in a few games this year and got their ass handed to them by Bama a couple of weeks ago. Bama physically dominated their asses on both lines of scrimmage. UGA May be the 2nd best team this year. They ain't the best.
12-30-2023, 08:28 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

Cam Dantzler?s year he hardly ever played except the the big games.

Pick 89 of the 3rd round. Damn... that seems like he thought he was Caleb Williams.
12-30-2023, 08:29 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

How??? They struggled in a few games this year and got their ass handed to them by Bama a couple of weeks ago. Bama physically dominated their asses on both lines of scrimmage. UGA May be the 2nd best team this year. They ain't the best.

We beat Arizona, but I wouldn't bet on it twice. 1 game samples are tricky
12-30-2023, 08:32 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Cam Dantzler sat out the game before the Egg Bowl in 2019 when he 100% could have played. There have been a few others here and there. "Business decisions" are now very much part of college football. It's hard to blame some with 50-100 million in their future on the line

You think him sitting out the Abilene Christian game so he could be ready for the Egg Bowl is the same thing?
12-30-2023, 08:33 PM
smootness

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

How??? They struggled in a few games this year and got their ass handed to them by Bama a couple of weeks ago. Bama physically dominated their asses on both lines of scrimmage. UGA May be the 2nd best team this year. They ain't the best.

Bama got basically beat by Auburn the week before that. So they ain?t the best I guess.
12-30-2023, 08:34 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

Cam Dantzler?s year he hardly ever played except the the big games.

Dantzler started 9 games in 2019. But yes he played alot of 2019 protecting himself.

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