2019 Recruiting Thread

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02-05-2019, 11:58 AM
bluelightstar

Long 3 years
02-05-2019, 12:01 PM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

Strong finish. Very strong. I don?t know why people get mad. All you can do is laugh because it?s comical at this point

How can you look at that and think Strong finish?
02-05-2019, 12:03 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs

How can you look at that and think Strong finish?

Don't get mad... he left off the **
02-05-2019, 12:07 PM
sandwolf

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

And how the hell is bitching helping?? Does it show you care, or just how little of a life you people have? JoMo has worked his ass off and hopefully it pays dividends for us tomorrow. If it doesn't, and you and a handful "melt"... it will make NO difference for next year! ZERO. Maybe it'll make you feel better, but that'll last just a short period too.

I kind of feel like you're melting over shotgun melting....
02-05-2019, 12:09 PM
msstate7

So assuming ari is right, since early signing period, we've done what...

Losses: Moore, James, Washington

Added: Duncan (hopefully)

Who am I missing?
02-05-2019, 12:11 PM
GreenheadDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by msstate7

Don't get mad... he left off the **

Yeh he’s too busy being a smart ass most of the time.
02-05-2019, 12:15 PM
Rick Danko

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

I will go ahead and start the meltdown for some of you
Ealy - OM
Moore - Aub
Mingo as of right now OM and I don’t look for that to change
Emerson- Stste

🤦*♂️🤦*♂️🤦*♂️
02-05-2019, 12:16 PM
NCDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Gold

I will go ahead and start the meltdown for some of you
Ealy - OM
Moore - Aub
Mingo as of right now OM and I don?t look for that to change
Emerson- Stste

If this is true, that is bad-really bad. Wonder if Pickering is wavering, also? Like Moorhead said during one of his press conferences when someone questioned our losing so much after his promises of championships, Heisman, etc., when he was hired, "reality has set in.".
02-05-2019, 12:17 PM
Dawg-gone-dawgs

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Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg

Yeh he’s too busy being a smart ass most of the time.

Quit taking shit so personal. Have you never encountered a smart ass before? Grow a pair. IF you don't like what I post there is an ignore feature. Try it out.
02-05-2019, 12:17 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So assuming ari is right, since early signing period, we've done what...

Losses: Moore, James, Washington

Added: Duncan (hopefully)

Who am I missing?

Too be fair, keeping Emerson should count, he was all but gone in most people's mind, including mine. It's been a disappointing close, but i'm not shocked.
02-05-2019, 12:19 PM
Interpolation_Dawg_EX

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Originally Posted by msu15

In regards to "killing our RB class", I am happy with Witherspoon and Walker.

Happy yes, but they're both depth guys. If Hill can't stay healthy this year, we are in trouble. Even Rosebowl says this RB class is light, Huff missed on big fish that threw everything else off, and we have to sign a top shelf RB next year.
02-05-2019, 12:22 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Too be fair, keeping Emerson should count, he was all but gone in most people's mind, including mine. It's been a disappointing close, but i'm not shocked.

Fair enough, I suppose Lawrence will be an add too. If this holds up, we'll finish most likely 6th in the west... bout where we always do. Considering this was a historic level of talent in the state, maybe we can bury the myth that joe is next level recruiter.
02-05-2019, 12:23 PM
CadaverDawg

The word "melt/melting" is so overused. You guys bitching about the "melting" have become far more annoying than those you're whining about. Different folks have different reactions...deal with it, or get off messageboards bc that's the way it is.

To some folks, a 20ish finish is great and will lead to more 6-8 Win seasons which they are thrilled with. To others, a 20ish finish means near the bottom of the league and while 6-8 wins is good, they know we won't be competing for any Titles or Sugar Bowls with 20ish classes more than likely, so they're upset we aren't taking a step forward in a big MS recruiting year.
Neither of these people are wrong...they just have different hopes and expectations for the program. As soon as everybody can agree that neither of these opinions is wrong, the quicker we can discuss recruiting instead of discussing melting vs not melting.
02-05-2019, 12:23 PM
Interpolation_Dawg_EX

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

I think it's taking our staff a little time to adjust to SEC recruiting and how to recruit at MSU. Not to be unexpected considering how much of our staff we had to replace. We are in a weird spot already in recruiting. We recruit elite players, but we have to be able to find kids that we can develop to fill the class out. Our staff hasn't had a chance to see these kids as much in person except when they were seniors. Decided disadvantage for them.

This next group of kids we should have a better handle on, but it's going to add to the difficulty because of how much this 2020 MS class seems to lack in terms of quality players. 10-15 max that could be SEC players? That's really really tough.

Right, but just like this season we don't have to change our approach a complete 180 overnight. We should've simplified the offense and we should have been more conservative with our recruiting approach until Joe/staff got their feet wet. We swang for the fences and are facing a tough reality that maybe he's not as good as we thought and/or the SEC is a different beast than the Big 10.
02-05-2019, 12:24 PM
CadaverDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homedawg

Too be fair, keeping Emerson should count, he was all but gone in most people's mind, including mine. It's been a disappointing close, but i'm not shocked.

I agree with everything you've posted today
02-05-2019, 12:24 PM
HancockCountyDog

Lets wait 24 hour and see what shakes out. I'm not as dialed in as most, but I'm not being told its over yet.
02-05-2019, 12:25 PM
Cooterpoot

I'm not sure we lose Moore yet. I'm just ready for this recruiting season to be done. Next round looks good for us so far and I think there will be less drama.
02-05-2019, 12:26 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

The word "melt/melting" is so overused. You guys bitching about the "melting" have become far more annoying than those you're whining about. Different folks have different reactions...deal with it, or get off messageboards bc that's the way it is.

To some folks, a 20ish finish is great and will lead to more 6-8 Win seasons which they are thrilled with. To others, a 20ish finish means near the bottom of the league and while 6-8 wins is good, they know we won't be competing for any Titles or Sugar Bowls with 20ish classes more than likely, so they're upset we aren't taking a step forward in a big MS recruiting year.
Neither of these people are wrong...they just have different hopes and expectations for the program. As soon as everybody can agree that neither of these opinions is wrong, the quicker we can discuss recruiting instead of discussing melting vs not melting.

bingo........
02-05-2019, 12:26 PM
bluelightstar

There will be less drama because there’s less talent
02-05-2019, 12:29 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

There will be less drama because there’s less talent

Yep, 16 4-star or better this season and only 7 next year
02-05-2019, 12:30 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

There will be less drama because there’s less talent

Not at the skill spots. Skill spots are deeper. We don't have the defensive talent next round or as many good OL.
02-05-2019, 12:32 PM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

I will go ahead and start the meltdown for some of you
Ealy - OM
Moore - Aub
Mingo as of right now OM and I don?t look for that to change
Emerson- Stste

so we are saying that our staff followed up a mediocre season by not closing in December followed by not closing in February.....doesn't instill much confidence as we are starting to develop a pattern....I'll go now
02-05-2019, 12:34 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Lets wait 24 hour and see what shakes out. I'm not as dialed in as most, but I'm not being told its over yet.

Agree, don't throw in the towel just yet.
02-05-2019, 12:36 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Agree, don't throw in the towel just yet.

State fans are quitters. Hard to break such a long and storied habit.
02-05-2019, 12:37 PM
Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluelightstar

There will be less drama because there?s less talent

Less drama = more MSU commits

Agree there may not be the same number of players, but still plenty talented.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Yep, 16 4-star or better this season and only 7 next year

We won't get close to 16 next year, but we all know the number of 4 stars will change between now and signing day. Hell the Brandon QB isn't rated yet.
02-05-2019, 12:37 PM
HancockCountyDog

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

The word "melt/melting" is so overused. You guys bitching about the "melting" have become far more annoying than those you're whining about. Different folks have different reactions...deal with it, or get off messageboards bc that's the way it is.

To some folks, a 20ish finish is great and will lead to more 6-8 Win seasons which they are thrilled with. To others, a 20ish finish means near the bottom of the league and while 6-8 wins is good, they know we won't be competing for any Titles or Sugar Bowls with 20ish classes more than likely, so they're upset we aren't taking a step forward in a big MS recruiting year.
Neither of these people are wrong...they just have different hopes and expectations for the program. As soon as everybody can agree that neither of these opinions is wrong, the quicker we can discuss recruiting instead of discussing melting vs not melting.

I'm not sure posts like this are allowed within 24 hours of signing day. Way too rational. GTSOH.

Great post - I'm not sure why this is so hard for some to understand.
02-05-2019, 12:38 PM
KOdawg1

I think Moore comes back around. He wouldn't have reached back out to us if he wasn't seriously considering it
02-05-2019, 12:39 PM
msstate7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

State fans are quitters. Hard to break such a long and storied habit.

What exactly are we quitting? Are we gonna positive think them into our class?
02-05-2019, 12:40 PM
msstate7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Less drama = more MSU commits

Agree there may not be the same number of players, but still plenty talented.

We won't get close to 16 next year, but we all know the number of 4 stars will change between now and signing day. Hell the Brandon QB isn't rated yet.

They can change the other way too, so I think at the moment is the best place to be
02-05-2019, 12:41 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by msstate7

What exactly are we quitting? Are we gonna positive think them into our class?

Giving up on Moorhead and this recruiting cycle for the most part. It's just a MSU way of life.
02-05-2019, 12:42 PM
CadaverDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Giving up on Moorhead and this recruiting cycle for the most part. It's just a MSU way of life.

That's like saying Browns fans are always quick to write off super bowl hopes. There's a precedent
02-05-2019, 12:44 PM
NCDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

State fans are quitters. Hard to break such a long and storied habit.

Don't know what you mean by "quitters." State fans just see disappointment year after year and it gets old. Most State fans still support their team, however, hoping that someday we can return to the SEC Championship again.
02-05-2019, 12:47 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

That's like saying Browns fans are always quick to write off super bowl hopes. There's a precedent

It's with everything for the most part. I'm not immune to it either. It's a habitual way of thinking for our fans. Baseball and now maybe women's basketball is the exception.
02-05-2019, 12:51 PM
Homedawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

That's like saying Browns fans are always quick to write off super bowl hopes. There's a precedent

That's pure gold! so true too......
02-05-2019, 12:51 PM
msstate7

Hopefully we get a good surprise tomorrow. I certainly never expected Simmons when we got him.
02-05-2019, 12:51 PM
HoopsDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

State fans are quitters. Hard to break such a long and storied habit.

I would say the opposite. Maybe we should quit caring so much but we don't.
02-05-2019, 12:55 PM
Commercecomet24

It's extremely easy to get frustrated. Everyone wants to win, I think we just all express it in different ways. The differing views on here by so many good posters is what makes this board so great. Heck if we all thought the same way it wouldn't be so entertaining. I prefer to let things play out, before reacting, but I understand the angst of others who don't. Last years mens basketball and baseball season is one of the reasons I like to see things play out to their end, cause you never know what can happen.
02-05-2019, 12:55 PM
Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

State fans are quitters. Hard to break such a long and storied habit.

Is that you Lamar Peters?
02-05-2019, 12:57 PM
Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

It's extremely easy to get frustrated. Everyone wants to win, I think we just all express it in different ways. The differing views on here by so many good posters is what makes this board so great. Heck if we all thought the same way it wouldn't be so entertaining. I prefer to let things play out, before reacting, but I understand the angst of others who don't. Last years mens basketball and baseball season is one the reasons I like to see things play out to their end, cause you never know what can happen.

Hard to have expectations of winning the SEC and being realistic that it likely won't happen.
02-05-2019, 12:57 PM
CadaverDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Is that you Lamar Peters?

+1

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