Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I didn't even turn the game on til the 8th but apparently Teheran had a good game. Take the series from Arizona and this could be a huge road trip for the remainder of the season.
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Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I didn't even turn the game on til the 8th but apparently Teheran had a good game. Take the series from Arizona and this could be a huge road trip for the remainder of the season.
Wood, miller, and folty on the bump vs Arizona. If we get home above .500, it could be a huge confidence builder for this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
Teheran certainly settled down. 4 bb, 1 k, and velocity down are concerning, but can't argue with results
Like I said, I didn't see that sequence. Of all the things you listed I think bringing in veal was worse than leaving in Teheran with the lead. I do understand wanting to get an extra inning or two out of him, knowing the struggles and over use of certain relief guys. But again I didn't see Teheran throw one pitch so I don't know what his last couple innings looked like to use as a gauge and inform my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Ok with the bullpen, I'll forgive fredi (not really, but for argument sake) for leaving in Teheran. Why not sub Cunningham in left though with Teheran giving up a ton of fly balls? Fredi subbed FF for CJ at 1b, which I agreed with. Leaving Gomes in left was dumb esp considering he misplayed a ball already, but dove and caught it. Really believe Cunningham runs that double down making all this all meaninglessQuote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
I'll be honest. I'm not a big Fredi fan, but the constant criticism he gets is amusing when this team is right around .500 and is a team that most expected would be a 100 loss team this year. Fredi and this team have surpassed their expectations to this point.
Good questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
My point is not to defend fredi...but, I guess, to defend all managers. Hind sight is 20-20 and it's always easy to go back and say what decision should have been made.
I can go back and question decisions made by bobby that were questionable from the 91 series all the way to pulling kimbrel to let Dunn face Aubrey huff. None of that means he isn't a HOF manager, in fact it shows the "6 of one, half a dozen of the other" nature of the game. Individual players have to make plays for any move to be a good one.
Fredi deserves some credit for that, but the lion's share of credit is hart's. Fredi didn't acquire Peterson, Maybin, miller, grilli, Jim Johnson, etc while also building for the future. Hart is the manQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
No, but it you listen to the criticism by fans on Braves message boards, Fredi will find a way to screw things up. In the long run, managers have very little control over the outcome of the games.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
:55 PM
@DOBrienAJC
Not to be trite or harsh, but it seems inevitable the #Braves will cut the Veal. Nice guy, but just overmatched.
@DOBrienAJC
#Braves Fredi on Teheran: "I think he?s OK health-wise, I think it?s just a matter of the game plan, or the way he?s executing his pitches."
#Braves Fredi G on Teheran: "I know his line looks pretty good, but I just didn?t feel comfortable the whole game, to tell you the truth."
...
Yet he left Teheran in to hit for himself with FF on the bench
9:38 PM
@DOBrienAJC
#Braves Peterson .303 (36-for-119) with .370 OBP, 6 extra-base hits (2 triples, 1 HR), 19 RBIs in past 32 games, w/ 13 BB, 17 K.
Wisler Wins Second IL Pitcher of the Week Award
He went 1-0 and did not allow a run in 10.1 innings from May 25-31
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp..._t431&sid=t431
Teheran's velo being down is a huge concern. He's supposed to be between 92-94 not 86-88. I still say there's some sort of injury that's either undiagnosed or undisclosed for some reason. That's a significant dip for a guy Fredi is still claiming isn't hurt.
@BravesReddit
(Wisler) Finished May w/1.78 ERA, 0.8774 WHIP, BAA of .197 and gave up just 6 BB in 6G while striking out 26.
Veal dfa'd
Cody Martin recalled
2:19 PM
@DOBrienAJC
Don't forget, #Braves could have a nice add to bullpen in Moylan. He could be close.
@rcatlfins24 don't know how sharp they'll be but vizcaino and Mckirahan come off suspension early in July
@DOBrienAJC
Supposedly throwing very well in extended spring training. Least that's word from Braves officials who've seen them.
Playing well so far tonight. Braves lead 5-0 in the 5th
@mbraves
.@Braves @JoeTerdoslavich to rehab at Double-A Mississippi Wednesday - Friday http://atmilb.com/1daYCp0 #MBraves @mbraves
Peterson with another double and rbi vs a lefty. Peterson has 22 rbi's this year. Really like this kid
Wood pitching well again as well. Really liking our starting rotation potential.
Oh and it just so happens we have the youngest (avg of age) staff in mlb, 2 prospects (wisler and banuelos) knocking on the door, and maybe the best 2 prospects (fried and Jenkins) probably making a push next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Got to solve the bullpen. Really interested in mckirahan and vizcaino when they return in July. Next year, Simmons and withrow will certainly help. I think the bullpen bounces back starting around July with mckirahan and vizcaino. Then it really picks it up next year with Simmons, withrow, and lots of money to spend this offseason.
I think we ride this staff to at least a WC next season and fight with the mets in '17 for the division
@KevinMcAlpin
Peter Moylan activated from Rome?s DL and promoted to Gwinnett. #Braves
Really pulling for him bc we need a reliever and bc I really like him
Love Moylan. Hopefully the injuries haven't degraded his stuff too much. Dude has one of the coolest pitcher entrance songs in the majors - TNT by AC/DC.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And I never thought I'd say this, but I can't wait for KJ to come off the DL. Cunningham can't hit and isn't ready.
2 hits tonight. I like what Cunningham brings to the table. EY Jr is the guy who should be sent down. Him or Ciriaco.Quote:
Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg
This bullpen is terrible. Just terrible. Fredi has no one he can go to and count on.
I agree. I do think fredi should've pulled cunniff after he faced the 2 right handers in 7th and brought avilan to face inciarte. I don't think it was a huge mistake, but a mistake. If avilan gets inciarte, you've got Johnson for 8th and grilli for 9thQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Make it 3 and some really good defense. Yeah, EY should get dfaQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Tough loss...
Wanna see Ryan Kelly and moylan up by this weekend. Flip a coin between Masset, cunniff, and Martin to send down
As you guys know I love Perez, but we may have to move him to the pen and call up wisler. I'd rather give moylan and Ryan Kelly a shot first, but we may have no choice
This team needs another lefty they can use out of the pen. Avilan's arm is going to fall off. Remember the days when we had Johnny Venter and Eric O'Flaherty as left handed relievers?
Yes, I do. You know oflaherty just came off dl for a's. I wonder how expensive it would be to get him.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Mckirahan comes back early July along with vizcaino. If we can stay afloat till then, they might could stabilize the pen.
Really hoping either/or or both of moylan and Ryan Kelly work out. I think you'll see both very soon
David carpenter dfa'd by Yankees. Pick him up, hart. He's certainly worth a shot
Runners on the corners with 1 out and Cunningham up. Fredi pulls him for Gomes. Gomes pops up. Cunningham has 5 hits the last 2 days. Defend fredi....
Then Gomes can't get to bell that Cunningham gets easily. Fredi is beyond stupid
Then fredi goes and gets Gomes. Too late idiot
Bout to lose bc another dumb dumb dumb decision by fredi. Cunningham is 5-6. Gomes hits .200 and is a major defensive liability
Fredi's gonna Fredi.
Definitely Fredi's fault that the pen can't hold a lead
I'm not blaming fredi for the pen. I am blaming fredi for pulling our best defensive and hottest hitting lf, Cunningham (5 for his last 6) and replacing him with a guy hitting .200 that's our worst defensive of. I know you're a huge fredi apologist, but can you pull off your fredi sunglasses long enough to see how incredibly dumb that was? I was mad pre-results, but absolutely incensed post-results.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
Gomes infield pop up then can't get ball that Cunningham could've jogged to. Even if Cunningham doesn't knock in a runner hitting, we probably still win if that out is recorded to start 7th. Oh and even fredi realized how stupid it was bc he pulled Gomes after Gomes blew that catch.