QBs like WRs, and now we have to sell a qb on well, we're gonna get some.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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QBs like WRs, and now we have to sell a qb on well, we're gonna get some.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
So a Top 4-5 WR in the SEC (I think he is light years ahead of Cayden Lee and Lambert is a senior)?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I agree QB is most important, but we can't spin this as anything except a major loss to our roster.
Now, if we go out and get a big time replacement, great but don't try and sell me that a DT Sheffield from North Texas is just as good as Kevin Coleman.
Which makes it worseQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
There's no way to spin this but that as a 2-10 team, we've actually went backwards so far. There's clearly time and we have some money, but Lebby is concerning the hell out of me.
He was the best player on a bad team. He won us no games and lost us no games. We will replace him. It is that simple. We did everything we could to keep him. He would have been paid on Tre Harris level and he is not in the same galaxy as Tre Harris. He wanted to go to Mizzou. All there is to it.
What is worse is our boosters were led to believe that he was locked downQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Cayden Lee may be the best possession receiver in the league and he has great speed. He had zero drops this year. I would take him over Coleman 7 days a week. He is a legit rd. 2-4 WR. Coleman will go to Mizzou and be lucky to go 5-7. It is going to be Zavion Thomas 2.0.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
That is because he was. We overpaid by 250K to make sure he stayed. He wanted to go to Mizzou for nothing originally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Why? Y?all are some barn blind individuals. Do you think that Starkvegas was first brought into existence as a compliment, guess what it wasn?t. This is the world we live in today and with free transfers it sucks but you just have to roll with it. Go get the next ones out of the portal until the point of where we get those that want to stay. Some just don?t want to be here in a small town in Mississippi. It is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
If we can't beat the likes of mizzou by outbidding them, it's a bad omen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Thanks for bringing me up to speed on how to be satisfied with our current situationQuote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Thank you for bringing some sanity into this. Guys guess what, we have lost our best receiver every year since 2021. And guess what? We have replaced them every year since 2021. Guess what we’re gonna do in 2025? Replace our best receiver and we won’t miss a beat. It is the nature of this business now. This is why I have been telling people do not get attached to players. You support the program. Name on the front, not name on the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Times have changed, gonna get worse. It's not just MSU it's pretty much every colle program. The to c him go but....bye!
Just trying to adjust that po ole Missippy Tate attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
NVMQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
By saying not everyone wants to be in old boring Starkville?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
I don't know what thus means, but I'd love for it be some good news. I need itQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
It?s a fact there hun, we have to work with it everyday. We have to work harder and do more with less everyday but I?m not gonna sit back and go whoa 17 us we will never get over the hump everyone else is better than us like a bunch here. Nope gonna see things like they are and work to make it happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
nevermind*Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah, just didn't think that fit, so I wasn't sure if it had a 2nd meaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein
While I hear you, he had a great year partly because of the system. Nobody knew who he was a year ago. Heck we fans didnt even think he was our best portal WR.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
That room is the one room I worry least about finding production tbh. Lebby's offense always blows up average receivers (Moore, Drummond, stoops, Coleman).
When we got Kevin, he had a season where he caught 26 passes for 362 yards and 2 TDs.
And this year he was our best wr. Somehow yall act like this a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I thought miner, Coleman, booth, and MVB were our best offensive players last season, and they're all gone
Nobody thinks it's good. The relevant question is whether his production is replaceable.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Who is miner?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Agreed. And all guys brought in by lebby as one year guys with little NIL money this time last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Hibbler is in boat
Hibbler is in the boat
Ethan MinerQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
https://www.on3.com/db/ethan-miner-42987/
This Hibbler, right? From Louisville?Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
https://247sports.com/player/red-hibbler-46137604/
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by RisperDawg
CenterQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Guessing he got hurt this season? Good stats last year, but 4 games this seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I haven't seen anyone say it is a good thing that Kevin Coleman is going to Missouri. It's not. However, Jeff Lebby's offense absolutely produces big production from the WR position.
2019 at UCF:
Gabriel Davis 72-1,241-12
Tre Nixon 49-830-7
Marlon Williams 51-717-6
2020 at Ole Miss:
Elijah Moore 86-1,093-8
2021 at Ole Miss:
Dontario Drummond 76-1,028-8
2022 at Oklahoma:
Marvin Mims 54-1,083-6
2023 at Oklahoma:
Drake Stoops 84-962-10
Nic Anderson 38-798-10
Jalil Farooq 45-694-2
2024 at Mississippi State
Kevin Coleman 74-932-6
No, he sat out after 4 games so he could come back for another year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
During lebby's career, how many times did he lose his top receiver that had eligibility?Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
ETA... BTW, 3 of those 5 are nfl guys, so they weren't just any bodies that could be easily replaced. Coleman is yet TBD
He played well last season, so I'll hope for the best. I don't like quitting though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
You also have to think if we do indeed get Arnold receivers are going to want to play with him. I really think it?s a position we are going to be able to recruit well
There's not a guy on a roster that's "irreplaceable" from a 2-10 team.