I think we may be making a change...

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Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson

Why because of the Egg Bowl?

We sucked in 16. We were 2-5 at one point and were on our way to 3-9 before a fluke win against A&M. We also gave up huge point totals to UMASS and Samford. We lost to Arkansas at home (One of 13 total SEC wins for Arkansas since Petrino left) in a game where they never punted. Lastly we got embarrassed 51-3 at Alabama. It was certainly looking special until we turned it all around in the EB....

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We also had to block a field goal at the end of regulation to beat Miami of Ohio in our bowl game.

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No. Because I saw what was on our roster and I knew what our coaches were capable of from previous years... but please do continue putting words in my mouth

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Originally Posted by KB21

Harry Hiestand as OL coach as well.

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We really need a top notch OL coach. LSU was wise hiring that NFL OL coach. I'm sure they paid a lot of money for him but it was a smart thing to do. They have a really good OL.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Revisionist? You are joking right? Of all of the criticisms of Croom, I've never heard anyone say he ran a lax or undisciplined program at MSU.

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LMAO! Then you haven't been listening.

I personally know quite a few people who are not renewing season tickets if JoMo is the head man.. these are people that have been season ticket holders through the Croom years.. excitement and enthusiasm for MSU football is at an all time low and the common denominator is JoMo. Cohen/Keenum know that football is the lifeblood of our athletic programs.. so ask yourself, would you be willing to bank the future of Mississippi State athletics on a coach that told the people that pay the bills to pound sand and kick rocks?

I know my answer and I hope Cohen sees it through. We will see.. if something isn't done by Friday beyond assistant changes, expect a lot of empty seats in 2020.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Give me any of the following guys....

Fritz
Napier
Clark
Hudspeth

I think we would do well with any of them, and I think we could get any of them if we wanted them.

But at the end of the day, just having a coach NOT named Joe Moorhead will suffice.

I'll believe the JoMo Shit Show is gone when I see it. My guess is they meet, our fans get fired up thinking a change is coming, and they allow him to make tons of staff changes and keep his job. We fire him in November of 20.

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If our administration elects to keep Moorhead then we will absolutely know what has to be done when he fails next November. It won’t be only Moorhead who has to be fired. We cannot afford to sacrifice 2020. If the administration does that then some of them will have to go. I said it before, keep him now and the entire College Football Fraternity will know we aren’t serious about football. He MUST be replaced.

At this point anyone would be better. The people on your list are good ones!! And any of them would do well here.

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

LMAO! Then you haven't been listening.

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LMAO as well! Listened to tons of MSU folks on this over the years. Apparently though, you are the end all be all opinion on Croom's program so I should have only listened to you. Didn't realize that.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Give me any of the following guys....

Fritz
Napier
Clark
Hudspeth

I think we would do well with any of them, and I think we could get any of them if we wanted them.

But at the end of the day, just having a coach NOT named Joe Moorhead will suffice.

I'll believe the JoMo Shit Show is gone when I see it. My guess is they meet, our fans get fired up thinking a change is coming, and they allow him to make tons of staff changes and keep his job. We fire him in November of 20.

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Except scratch those last 2 names off the list.

I'm good with Napier but I think Fritz with Will Hall would be a HR.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

LMAO as well! Listened to tons of MSU folks on this over the years. Apparently though, you are the end all be all opinion on Croom's program so I should have only listened to you. Didn't realize that.

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Sure bud.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Give me any of the following guys....

Fritz
Napier
Clark
Hudspeth

I think we would do well with any of them, and I think we could get any of them if we wanted them.

But at the end of the day, just having a coach NOT named Joe Moorhead will suffice.

I'll believe the JoMo Shit Show is gone when I see it. My guess is they meet, our fans get fired up thinking a change is coming, and they allow him to make tons of staff changes and keep his job. We fire him in November of 20.

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To me first calls have to be to several P5 guys just to kick the tires and see what goes down. Examples:
1. Urban Meyer
2. PJ Fleck
3. Scott Satterfield
4. Chris Klieman
5. Neal Brown
6. Dave Clawson

Now, I realize these are extremely unrealistic candidates, but I wanted to say if it were me, those are my first phone calls to gauge what it might take. Because if you can get those guys, you get those guys.

Now realistically speaking, the next phone calls must go to some candidates either from G5 schools or possibly even some former P5 coaching guys who are now OC/DC's somewhere. This would be my order of phone calls.

1. Billy Napier
2. Bill Clark
3. Will Healy
4. Willie Fritz
5. Steve Sarkisian
6. Bryan Harsin

Now if that doesn't work at all.

1. Mark Hudspeth
2. Gene Chizik
3. Joe Brady
4. Skip Holtz
5. Blake Anderson

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Originally Posted by Behrdawg

Too many skeletons in the closet.

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THIS.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Revisionist? You are joking right? Of all of the criticisms of Croom, I've never heard anyone say he ran a lax or undisciplined program at MSU.

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You want to see a culture change? It was Mullen cleaning up the Croom disaster. You should talk to the people that were on that first Mullen staff. It was a joke what they inherited, every aspect of the football operations.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

You want to see a culture change? It was Mullen cleaning up the Croom disaster. You should talk to the people that were on that first Mullen staff. It was a joke what they inherited, every aspect of the football operations.

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Correct.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Working on Warren's campaign. Why do you think she's doing so well?**

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I hope you're not in charge of fund-raising Beardo, she's going broke.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

You know how you don't fire people after two years?

You hire better coaches. You make damn well that the people you hire are ready and proven for the position.

We are an SEC 17ing West Football program. You act like.

I find it funny how people still want to chase the shiny object with a coach like Joe Brady who clearly isn't experienced enough or ready for the job. You simply cannot do that.

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our spot is about like what Arkansas was in - no one is going to crow when we fire someone that has under performed to this level.