Where Things Stand Currently

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Originally Posted by KB21

Just so it?s out there, Durkin runs a hybrid scheme and uses 3-3-5, 2-4-5, and 3-2-6 formations.

So, if you don?t like 3 man fronts and 2 man fronts, then you aren?t going to like Durkin.

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Durkin would be outstanding.

There are plenty of great DCs out there.

- Brad White - (Kentucky)

- Phil Parker - (Iowa)

- Bryant Haines - (Indiana)

- Vince Kehres- Toledo

- Colin Hitschler- JMU

- Nick Benedetto- Fresno St.... BTW... coached in the south at Samford.,. Coached players that went pro. Young guy.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

There are plenty of great DCs out there.

- Brad White - (Kentucky)

- Phil Parker - (Iowa)

- Bryant Haines - (Indiana)

- Vince Kehres- Toledo

- Colin Hitschler- JMU

- Nick Benedetto- Fresno St.... BTW... coached in the south at Samford.,. Coached players that went pro. Young guy.

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Why would a DC from Indiana or Iowa come here? Both are much better programs

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Why would a DC from Indiana or Iowa come here? Both are much better programs

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Because who wouldn?t want to trade the stability of a good program for the instability of another - I mean you get the chance to coach a guaranteed 1st rounder in the new commit

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Originally Posted by KB21

No one runs either, unless you are considering what is actually a 2-4 to be a 4-2. The 4-3 front is outdated and almost completely phased out outside of some situations. Most defenses are 3-4 based with some 4-3 principles.

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Yeah- just about every team runs multiple fronts now by sliding their DL. But DC's will have their preference of being more 3 down or 4 down. Saban/Kirby are 3 down guys but spread teams forced them to walk down a LB'er and play more 4 man fronts. The DL will still line up like a 3 man with the hybrid guy walked down to the strength call.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Yeah- just about every team runs multiple fronts now by sliding their DL. But DC's will have their preference of being more 3 down or 4 down. Saban/Kirby are 3 down guys but spread teams forced them to walk down a LB'er and play more 4 man fronts. The DL will still line up like a 3 man with the hybrid guy walked down to the strength call.

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Yep, and that gives them the flexibility to still have a base 7 in pass coverage dependent on the formation. Saban set the mold for that with the MEG and MOD stuff freeing up pass rush coupled with the call.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

So to get this back to the original 17 topic,

1. DC changes have been impressed upon Lebby and he is receptive to that. I do not have a name that I could share because it is nothing more than people guessing.

2. We are revamping the scouting dept. Bo McKinnis and Co. gave Selmon a check for that yesterday and hires are already being made on that front.

3. TCU winning today, and how they won, could save Sonny(although I doubt it). Even with him staying, Art is putting some pressure on Kendall to get back into the SEC. He was a hell of a lot closer to a HC job when he was at Arkansas than he is now. He is also VERY INTERESTED in working with Kamario. Art has called KJ Jefferson a poor man?s Kamario.

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have you changed your mind on KT. all I heard from you during the season is how KT wasn't ready and Shapen was the Man.

Any word on Durkin being named DC?

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

have you changed your mind on KT. all I heard from you during the season is how KT wasn't ready and Shapen was the Man.

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Yes it was in another thread. But thank you again for trying to hijack another thread.

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Originally Posted by Chuck3124

Any word on Durkin being named DC?

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Right now it is nothing more than smoke. I think we are going to get through signing day and then figure out the optics of the change.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Yes it was in another thread. But thank you again for trying to hijack another thread.

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dude , I haven't hijacked any thread. I just wondered-- you being all knowing-if you had changed your mind on KT. you don't have to get all huffy.

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

dude , I haven't hijacked any thread. I just wondered-- you being all knowing-if you had changed your mind on KT. you don't have to get all huffy.

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You actually did. This thread is for coaching changes and where things stand in that regard. If you would like to discuss Kamario there is a thread about people changing their opinions on things.

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Originally Posted by tcdog70

dude , I haven't hijacked any thread. I just wondered-- you being all knowing-if you had changed your mind on KT. you don't have to get all huffy.

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You did just try to hijack the thread. Several others keep doing it - you're not alone. But a lot of us are ****ing annoyed at it.

I'm over the KT vs. Shapen debate. I'm over the Leach vs. Mullen vs. Lebby debate. Let's focus on who we have, who we're getting rid of, and who we're getting. And let's focus on State sources.

Our DC hire is going to be critical for the success of the program, this has to work hand in hand with the portal acquisitions we can pull in, we wont become a top 5 defense overnight but we can hopefully become more flexible in our approach. We are bound to a scheme by lack of personnel right now and that has to change. personnel dictate what a team can run it would be nice to be more multiple with success.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Right now it is nothing more than smoke. I think we are going to get through signing day and then figure out the optics of the change.

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Mannnn this makes me really feel like we don?t make a move at DC. Really hope I?m wrong there

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Originally Posted by Chuck3124

Mannnn this makes me really feel like we don?t make a move at DC. Really hope I?m wrong there

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We're making one. I just don't know the exact timing.

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Originally Posted by Chuck3124

Mannnn this makes me really feel like we don?t make a move at DC. Really hope I?m wrong there

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My gut feeling says you’re wrong. Let’s hope that’s not just indigestion.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Our DC hire is going to be critical for the success of the program, this has to work hand in hand with the portal acquisitions we can pull in, we wont become a top 5 defense overnight but we can hopefully become more flexible in our approach. We are bound to a scheme by lack of personnel right now and that has to change. personnel dictate what a team can run it would be nice to be more multiple with success.

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To me- what is the most critical- is the defensive staff/analysts being able to spot talent that is not on everybody's radar- like Kiffin did with the D-II QB. We need to find some guys that can come in and play/provide quality depth that dont cost us alot. Moneyball if you will. That's going to be the key to building our rosters moving forward

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Originally Posted by Coach34

To me- what is the most critical- is the defensive staff/analysts being able to spot talent that is not on everybody's radar- like Kiffin did with the D-II QB. We need to find some guys that can come in and play/provide quality depth that dont cost us alot. Moneyball if you will. That's going to be the key to building our rosters moving forward

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It's crazy that the bare minimum in getting ahead here is just watching FCS and D2 playoffs. Which a scouting department should mandatorily watch and review film of. Then just tamper, there are no rules.

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Originally Posted by Tater

It's crazy that the bare minimum in getting ahead here is just watching FCS and D2 playoffs. Which a scouting department should mandatorily watch and review film of. Then just tamper, there are no rules.

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I'm glad that we have put more funding toward that part of the staff. It's frustrating that we haven't been fully funding every aspect since day one with this staff. I know we are building back and gaining new parts from a total meltdown, it's just tiresome seeing us still having to be reactive while we are desperately working to become proactive.