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100% - we have to invest in the sports that bring national recognition and TV ratings. Baseball doesn't move that needle.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
edited: I don't think we are terrible in baseball, but I don't really follow it so I'll let others make that judgement.
Stupid talk. Just stupid. We literally lose money on baseball. $3MM to be exact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
We could?ve gone up more but elected not to. We have Hub locked down, the transfer big we spent about $1MM or above on. At some point you have to know when to stop and be wise. You could get two players that equal Murph?s production for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
A lot of our fans just don't get it. They are so blinded by us once having a good baseball team and do not understand how realignment works. Ironically, we have been better in basketball the last 4 years than baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
This is simply untrue as I pointed out earlier. Last season's baseball team topped anything basketball has done. We won a Natty in baseball 4 years ago. Dont be surprised when this season's baseball team finishes higher than basketball did as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
If we’re going to flush money down the drain and buy baseball players, just send it to my address instead. You’ll get about the same return. Maybe more because I’ll donate some to NIL and buy some season tickets for the fam. Start an elite dawgs tailgate.
Ha ha, sign me up so I get some of that money too. I'll be the new bagman for football and basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
I’m about done with this trash. Jans lost another portal target. Florida State big man goes to Arkansas and now St.Bonnies guard goes to Kansas. I am sure we can get the other Wichita State guard and we can become Wichita State.
What is "Return" in regards to NIL? Everyone keeps using the term, but I feel like they are using different definitions. Here are the different definitions that I "think" are being used:
1. Monetary Return - My Opinion: This is strictly in regards to the school, no one who contributes to NIL gets a monetary return. It is strictly a subsidy. Please correct me if I'm wrong and tell me what percentage they are getting.
2. Results - My Opinion: For the amount of money that is being spent on football and basketball, the "results" suck! Even though baseball loses money, the "return" has been better all though not where it should be.
3. Prestige/Ego: My Opinion: In other words, spending gobs of money guarantees continued inclusion in the best conference, which increases the university's prestige and boosts the fans ego.
Did I miss any?
I really don't know if it's Jans losing them or us losing them. If offers are exactly the same, it's on Jans, but I doubt they are. This new system sorta takes the Saleman part out of the job for a coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
We lost a regional last year in baseball just like we lost in the NCAA tournament in the first round in hoops. We went to the NCAA tournament in hoops the last 3 years and only made a regional 1. I was referring to the 4 seasons (including this one) after the Natty. We do not get any money for baseball. It does not matter if we win a natty over and over it will not place us in a good position for realignment. If this were the case, Oregon State would be in the big 12. We need to improve in football and basketball so that we can draw more TV's and generate revenue. Those are the two sports needing our focus if we want to stay in a top conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We made the Round of 32 in baseball. Supers are the Sweet 16 of Baseball. We have yet to do that in basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
We finished tied for 9th in SEC basketball. We are only 2 games out of 9th in baseball with half the schedule to go. As I said- dont be surprised when we match or better that in baseball this year
What does Jans have to offer these top players? His recruiting pitch still matters. Every team is paying players now so he has to evolve in other areas. Like I stated before he isn't developing players for the next level and I'm calling it now if Keyshawn Murphy gets anywhere close to the playing time he got at State under Pearl, we may see him in the NBA after next season, Pearl is a top 10 Coach in the nation so there is a reason he wanted Murphy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
What is Jans' pitch to these players? 'You can come here, be in a system, play hard nosed defense and get cussed out on National t.v. every game' ..... I'm taking my homer hat off for a second and looking at our team and Coach from a realistic standpoint and I'm not sure Jans has that it factor to reel in top players. Yes he wins some games but its a defensive minded system that I question how far it can take us.
Well....Jans has been here 3 years and has taken us to the Dance 3 times. Seems about right for complaining to start....always some who think we can and should do better. Unbelievable the expectations of some.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
Everything I stated has context to it. I'm only stating my opinion, if you are ok with just making the Dance 3 times or getting bounced out of the tournament in round one every year I'm happy as hell for you! But I'm not and I'm only stating what I see! When I see good, I post about it... when I see things that are concerning I post about it also. I don't understand responses like this, are we all supposed to get on here and agree with every take the others post? Or can we talk about what we observe, like or dont like and concerns about our programs??Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
Only 15-20 percent of schools care about college baseball so bragging about making the tournament as a baseball blue blood school is pretty lame. More recognition comes from making the basketball tournament, where 90 percent of the schools care, than making the CWS and I dont care how you spin it or what everyone?s emotional attachment to baseball is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I understand alot of State fans really love and enjoy baseball, but this is a very true statement. It's unfortunate but baseball just doesn't garner the National attention that Basketball or Football does.Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
More than that baseball doesn't pay the bills or keep you in line to get paid with the big boys every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN
I and 24.4 million other people can't wait to fill out our NCAA College Baseball Bracket this year. Yeah, it ain't the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yeah that is just the facts of the world we live in with college sports. Basketball is my favorite sport, but I understand that our primary focus needs to be on football because that is what pays the bills and gets most of the TV viewership. Basketball is definitely important though and now Jans needs to take the next step to get us past the first round in the next year or two. Our baseball fans like to put blinders on though and think all is well, but in reality it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN