THE 2020 MSU Football Recruiting Talk Thread

I wouldn't mind losing our top in-state recruits if we were bringing in a few of the top recruits from other states. But we don't.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I wouldn't mind losing our top in-state recruits if we were bringing in a few of the top recruits from other states. But we don't.

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Nope

Now lideatrick griffin just decommitted

Tulu Griffin decommits as well. My thoughts from the outside looking in is that Moorhead gets these kids on campus, gets them pumped, and gets a commit from them, but it isn't a very thought out or well planned commitment. Its a "shoot why not" deal. I'd rather wait than take that approach. Because when they do decommit, you lose a lot of steam.

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Originally Posted by jacksondawg

Now lideatrick griffin just decommitted

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Not sure if it means anything but his last 2 retweets on scholarship offers were Mississippi Delta and Co Lin. He a grade issue possibly? Usually don't retweet or get junior college scholarship offers when you are committed to an SEC school unless there's a reason to go there.

This was the class where we were finally getting WRs. We now have 3 WR decommits.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

This was the class where we were finally getting WRs. We now have 3 WR decommits.

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Brutal. Better just take the 3 Jucos.

Fire everyone

What the hell is going on? was there some event that happened?

Well, so much for Tony Hughes solving our recruiting issues I guess. What the heck is going on??

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Originally Posted by vv83

What the hell is going on? was there some event that happened?

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Just this staff providing excitement and doing work***

Tulu will be back I'm not sure on Adams

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Tulu will be back I'm not sure on Adams

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You and Paul must be really really close IYOK. Like sharing brains close. Lol.

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

You and Paul must be really really close IYOK. Like sharing brains close. Lol.

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I wish I knew if you were his source or he is yours. Honestly. I think he may just copy everything you post. Or is it the other way around?

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

You and Paul must be really really close IYOK. Like sharing brains close. Lol.

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I haven't talked to Paul but I know a lot about this situation.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I haven't talked to Paul but I know a lot about this situation.

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I think he’s stealing your info

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Originally Posted by preachermatt83

I think he’s stealing your info

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I doubt it. I'm sure he & Steve & Robbie have tons of guys they talk to. We could be talking to some of the same people. Paul's 1 of the best he doesn't need me I'm sure. I'm a random guy on a message board.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I doubt it. I'm sure he & Steve & Robbie have tons of guys they talk to. We could be talking to some of the same people. Paul's 1 of the best he doesn't need me I'm sure. I'm a random guy on a message board.

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In all honesty I trust what you say over many of the big shots. Steve is the best out there but behind him I’d take ur word and ari’s over Paul or Robbie. And I like Robbie. Paul, not so much.

E Jai Mason will be back as well. Not sure he is a WR in the SEC but he will be back. Idk enough about Griffin to talk about it

From some other boards sounds like Mason will have to play his way back in if he wants back - there was talk of looking at him at LB and not WR now

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

From some other boards sounds like Mason will have to play his way back in if he wants back - there was talk of looking at him at LB and not WR now

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I was hinting at that but I dont think putting the kids down publicly helps us. He plays some LB at Clinton and is pretty good. 4.7 in the 40 doesnt scream SEC WR but there have been many that fast or slower that have done well.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I was hinting at that but I dont think putting the kids down publicly helps us. He plays some LB at Clinton and is pretty good. 4.7 in the 40 doesnt scream SEC WR but there have been many that fast or slower that have done well.

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You know what else..putting our headcoach down everyday on message boards doesn't help either. These kids read things and apparently Moorhead has already lost the fans, pers folks on here and elsewhere. I've never seen so many threads about how terrible a headcoach has been from March to May in one off season.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

You know what else..putting our headcoach down everyday on message boards doesn't help either. These kids read things and apparently Moorhead has already lost the fans, pers folks on here and elsewhere. I've never seen so many threads about how terrible a headcoach has been from March to May in one off season.

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Yall are crazy if you dont think the kids parents dont get on here, 6pack and wherever else and read. I do think we should hold coaches/players accountable and if they cant handle it then they aint a winner anyway BUT there is a limit and we cross it sometimes. Every fan base does. I reckon thats what makes football so fun, everyone is emotionally invested.

If you wouldn't say it to a persons face, then don't say it.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

You know what else..putting our headcoach down everyday on message boards doesn't help either. These kids read things and apparently Moorhead has already lost the fans, pers folks on here and elsewhere. I've never seen so many threads about how terrible a headcoach has been from March to May in one off season.

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It really is awful. I've never seen a group of fans so against an 8 win coach in his first year in my life. He's not perfect, but also didn't lose to South Alabama while wearing shorts. Until we come together as a fan base and pull in the same direction we will never get to where Baseball and WB are currently at. I guess WB was so under the radar until they started winning so nobody cared enough to bitch about everyday.

These kids just commit entirely too early. They haven't even started their senior year yet

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

These kids just commit entirely too early. They haven't even started their senior year yet

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This is ultimately the problem. You've got young, impressionable kids that make emotional decisions. In the end they end up making much more difficult on themselves than if they just wait until the end and communicate with the schools they are truly interested.

There are a significant number of decommits every day from the junior class. They aren't old enough or experienced enough to navigate the recruiting waters yet. Wish something could be done about it but there isn't really anything you can do.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

These kids just commit entirely too early. They haven't even started their senior year yet

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And who you think are the ones pushing for these commits?

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

E Jai Mason will be back as well. Not sure he is a WR in the SEC but he will be back. Idk enough about Griffin to talk about it

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I haven't seen Mason a lot, but I've heard he isn't an SEC WR - best suited somewhere on defense, but not sure if SEC is where he needs to land. He's a talented kid but doesn't show it on the field.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Arkansas is a conundrum to me.

Are they just paying players right now or what?

They better be careful with kids like Adams that are out of state. Those are the ones that get the NCAA on you.

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Is it this Alex Adams? Doubt a 3 star would raise that much attention. Hell we signed four 4-star WRs last year and three of them were out of state. WR should be this staff's best recruiting position when you look at their history with players like Courtland Sutton, Sammy Watkins, DeAndre Hopkins, etc.

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Originally Posted by WPS

Is it this Alex Adams? Doubt a 3 star would raise that much attention. Hell we signed four 4-star WRs last year and three of them were out of state. WR should be this staff's best recruiting position when you look at their history with players like Courtland Sutton, Sammy Watkins, DeAndre Hopkins, etc.

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He won't be a 3 star for long. He's legit.

It’s May...
everyone remember Jarian Jones ..
he was committed to Oklahoma about this same time last year and became the leader of the 2019 class
Griffin will be fine.

Again if you all don’t understand what goes on “behind the scenes “ in recruiting then it’s wise to just not follow.
Also ask anyone that has any connections with this program how hard and involved CJM is involved with recruiting and the effort he puts in and makes this staff put in...

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Again if you all don?t understand what goes on ?behind the scenes ? in recruiting then it?s wise to just not follow.

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So no one outside of a select few should follow recruiting?

Not sure the world works that way

I also think there is a significant number of people that understand what goes on behind the scenes in recruiting but doesn't understand why we continue to suck at handling the behind the scenes part while other schools appear to master it.

Deon Smith is probably the best skill player in the state even as a J,r he is committed. If he ever decommits this place will go full nuclear. Im just glad that none of the super melters actually recruit for us bc if they did, we would never get any kid that another school wanted

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Originally Posted by WPS

Is it this Alex Adams? Doubt a 3 star would raise that much attention. Hell we signed four 4-star WRs last year and three of them were out of state. WR should be this staff's best recruiting position when you look at their history with players like Courtland Sutton, Sammy Watkins, DeAndre Hopkins, etc.

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MS players are always the last to get a proper rating, and even late in the cycle about half don't get an accurate rating. A much better way to grade a prospect is to watch video. Even looking at the offers is better than star jerking, unless he's a phenom.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

So no one outside of a select few should follow recruiting?

Not sure the world works that way

I also think there is a significant number of people that understand what goes on behind the scenes in recruiting but doesn't understand why we continue to suck at handling the behind the scenes part while other schools appear to master it.

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No he's saying if you will melt over every decommit you don't need to follow recruiting or post. Bad things happen to every school. We are great at self sabotaging when most on here not only have zero clue about what actually goes on, but can't help but hurt us when they post negative things.

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

If you wouldn't say it to a persons face, then don't say it.

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That's sweet. Bless your heart.

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

It really is awful. I've never seen a group of fans so against an 8 win coach in his first year in my life. He's not perfect, but also didn't lose to South Alabama while wearing shorts. Until we come together as a fan base and pull in the same direction we will never get to where Baseball and WB are currently at. I guess WB was so under the radar until they started winning so nobody cared enough to bitch about everyday.

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JMO,but 8 wins ain't what it used to be. Beat 4 OOC foes that usually don't have a pulse, continue to beat Arky, and UM, we should never lose to KY, and win one from the last 4, and that's eight. Beating the "dead horse" of last year, no way we should have lost to KY, Fl, or Iowa. I'll be in my season ticket seat with my 7 family members for year approx. 52 and I've seen it all at State.. I'm all for Joe and MSU, but talk of shelf room for a Heisman, getting ring sizes, "Championship Standards", didn't help much at all. See Emory Bellard predicting an SEC Championship and not winning a single SEC game. A ring for beating UM also seems like something they would do. I now want and expect more than eight and I don't think that is a bad thing. Hail State!

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

That's sweet. Bless your heart.

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Thank you, Bless your heart reciprocally. While I'm at it Bless both our hearts! Hail State!

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

JMO,but 8 wins ain't what it used to be. Beat 4 OOC foes that usually don't have a pulse, continue to beat Arky, and UM, we should never lose to KY, and win one from the last 4, and that's eight. Beating the "dead horse" of last year, no way we should have lost to KY, Fl, or Iowa. I'll be in my season ticket seat with my 7 family members for year approx. 52 and I've seen it all at State.. I'm all for Joe and MSU, but talk of shelf room for a Heisman, getting ring sizes, "Championship Standards", didn't help much at all. See Emory Bellard predicting an SEC Championship and not winning a single SEC game. A ring for beating UM also seems like something they would do. I now want and expect more than eight and I don't think that is a bad thing. Hail State!

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Agree Golden!