Slighted my man, huh? HahaQuote:
Originally Posted by trob115
Yeah, I'm loving him.
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Slighted my man, huh? HahaQuote:
Originally Posted by trob115
Yeah, I'm loving him.
Perez is the one I'm most interested in though. I really, really like him. I think he could be our next medlen. He doesn't beat you with power, but he's gritty as hell and just knows how to get guys out. He may or may not be a starter for us long term, but he's at this level to stay imo. Prove me right, Williams
I think he is a guy who will be a long term long relief/spot starter. I'm really hoping the braves beef up their pitching prospects in this draft. The lower minors needs an influx of talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I don't think you have to worry about that with hart. He's always looking for pitching and I like itQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
You keep saying this, but I don't understand it. We have as much pitching talent all throughout the minors as just about any organization in baseball. We have Sanchez in A, Sims and Grosser in A+, and Fulenchek, our top pitcher from last year's draft, hasn't even thrown yet this year. And that doesn't include all the young arms we have in AA, AAA, and Atlanta.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
We'll obviously get our share of pitching, but our system is far more barren in terms of legit bats than arms. We have to use some of our top picks on high-upside bats.
I agree on Perez, though. He'll get passed by some of our other pitching prospects before long.
Yeah just busting your balls haha. Hopefully Tehran gets his stuff together and we could be looking at our best complete rotation since the late 90's.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
IMO high picks should ALMOST always be used in arms. Stockpile the pitchers cuz young pitching can be traded for whatever else the team needs are.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
You do realize just how slim that is, right? Atlanta is probably in the bottom half of the league when it comes to overall minor league pitching talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
This is just not true. Teams like Atlanta who are not major-market teams have to rely on their farm system for most of their talent at all positions. You can't rely on trades to bring in all of your bats.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
Look at what teams like the Cubs and Red Sox are doing. Hitting is at a premium all around baseball right now. If you don't have much of it, you're at a big disadvantage.
I'm all for drafting arms, but it has to be balanced, especially given the current state of our system.
Hahahaha this is insane. The Braves have a top 5-10 minor league system right now, and that is based almost entirely on our pitching talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
There aren't any more than 3-5 other systems in baseball who can compare with a list of Folty, Wisler, Banuelos, Jenkins, and Fried in terms of high-upside pitching prospects. And that isn't even taking into account that our top 3 major league arms are all 24 years old.
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@KevinMcAlpin
#Braves have signed catcher Ryan Lavarnway to a Minor League deal. He will be assigned to Gwinnett.
The Braves have 1 pitcher in their system right now that is considered to be a top 100 prospect in baseball. Matt Wisler.
Lucas Sims has fallen out, and he is by far the best prospect they have in the lower levels.
atlanta isn't a NY or chicago or LA or SF or boston, but they are every bit the market or better than pretty much everyone else in baseball. they just choose not to behave like it. no one to blame there but your own management.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
but yeah, epstein immediately started hoarding high ceiling bats when he took over the cubs GM spot because it's harder than ever to find bats. you can find plenty of relatively low ceiling guys that'll give you a <4.00 era with a chance for <3.50 with the right breaks these days. they are everywhere.
7:10 PM
Toscano Update:
?@mlbbowman
Dian Toscano is working out at the #Braves' ST complex. Will start playing Minor Lg. games after completion of some administrative issues
I'm hoping when the new stadium opens that liberty media will open up the pocket book more. My real hope is that liberty media will sell the Braves to Arthur blanksQuote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
Looking ahead to '16 bullpen...
Cunniff
Avilan
Withrow -- setup/closer
Simmons -- setup/closer
I figure these 4 are pretty certain.
What about mckirahan? Will he back on the team?
Surely we trade Jim Johnson and grilli.
Vizcaino?
Any reason to think the bullpen will be better next season?
Wrong. Folty was top 100 before the season. Fried has been top 100, around 50-60, and will be again, he's just recovering from surgery.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Banuelos was top 20 at one time and could see himself back in the top 100 at the midsession mark based on the way he's pitched this year. Jenkins should be knocking on the door. And Sanchez is 18 and was already the Angels' #1 prospect when we traded for him. He could easily find himself in the top 100 in a year or two.
Sims is not a better prospect than Sanchez, not anymore at least. And Sims himself was still top 100 by Baseball Prospectus and MLB.com before this season.
Give me 5 other organizations in baseball with 4 top 100 pitching prospects, 1 more that has been in the past and could be again, and 2 more on top of that who are knocking on the door.
When I say Atlanta is not a major market, in baseball terms, I'm talking about payroll. Yes, our payroll is lower than the Atlanta market might suggest, but that doesn't help in evaluating the resources the Braves have available and the kind of moves they can make.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
I'm not talking about who to blame; this is just the reality. With current ownership and budget stipulations, we can't be a major player for big-time free agents. Therefore, we simply have to build from within.
I think there is very good reason to believe it will be better. We will probably trade Grilli but could bring him back.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Vizcaino should be healthy and will be a big boost, along with Simmons. Those are two legit back-end arms. With row will hopefully be back, along with Winkler. Then you may see us move a guy like Banuelos there, at least temporarily. And I think it's a matter of time before Hursh, with his 100-mph fastball, is moved to the bullpen.
I doubt Cunniff will be there; he just walks too many. If he is, we have a problem.
I would be excited about:
Winkler
Banuelos
Withrow
Avilan
Vizcaino
Simmons
Grilli
But Banuelos and Grilli aren't likely to be there.
I see some value in cunniff. He's very tough on rh batters.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Might not be a bad idea to keep Johnson or grilli if we feel we've got a shot at postseason next year. I certainly wouldn't just give both away for nothing
Wisler today...
8.1 ip 2 h 0 er 2 bb 7 k
Season era now 3.58
Peraza with another cf start
David carpenter (not that one) got the save today.
David carpenter season stats...
0.84 era 21.1 ip 15 h 9 h 19 k
.200 opp avg 1.13 whip
Anyone know anything about carpenter? Is he a prospect?
Terdoslavich got a double and an rbi for Carolina mudcats today. Would love to see him in lf for us soon
Albies got a double and an rbi today. Season stats...
.288 avg .354 obp .720 ops
20 sb
Davidson had 2 hits including a double and an rbi. Season stats...
.240 avg .381 obp .737 ops 4 hr
These stats don't include today's' games, just for the record. Davidson is up to .253.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Phenomenal stuff from Wisler lately.
You're right. My badQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Maybin with 16 rbi's in May. He had 15 all last season. Maybin is really playing well
Don't ever do it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Looks like his line is now .248/.389/.369. Pretty good for an 18-year-old kid, especially his walk rate. If the power comes a little more, and it should, then this is exactly what you want from him. Especially after a rough start to the year.
He's so young that I can't say for certain, but he seems to have trade written all over him with Peterson, Simmons, and peraza (may be cf though)Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
@mlbbowman
This is Jace Peterson's first multi-hit game since May 21, but he now has nine dating back to May 4. #Braves
1:32 PM
@mlbbowman
Perez has retired 11 of the 13 batters he's faced since allowing three of the first six batters he faced to reach safely.
Sorry, that line was Davidson's. Albies is hitting .290 with a .361 OBP. I do NOT want to trade Albies. At all. He has the most potential of that group, by far.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
If anyone you trade Peterson, who's been decent but nothing more. You don't trade away your future stud because your super utility player is blocking him.
I knew the line was Davidson, but was thinking albies for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
About Peterson... He's a rookie, so I wouldn't say he's peaked. We must think he's a little better than decent to be experimenting with a position change with our best prospect
I know Peterson is a rookie, but his ceiling isn't much higher than what he's doing now. Albies is just a far better prospect.
I don't like the move of Peraza to CF, either. I'd rather us try to shift Peterson out there than mess with Peraza.
Think it may have as much to do with defense as it does with Peterson to tell the truth. Pretty sure I read peraza has 9 errors already this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
I'm not too worried with the errors. Simmons had something like 28 the year before he was called up.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It is interesting, though. Peraza was supposed to be the better player defensively of the two (both were projected a little above-average) but Peterson has far exceeded expectations there. If he can keep providing that defense and getting on base, then he has value. I just worry that he may not ultimately hit enough, and he doesn't have any power right now.
If Peraza can play CF well, then great, though that would then block Mallex Smith.
Ideally, if everyone hit their ceiling, I would want Peraza at second, Mallex in center, and Peterson playing the super ultility role. But I'm not opposed to a trade, we just need to be careful and be certain before we make a move that we're not giving up the better player, no matter who it is.
Williams Perez since he started starting...
Vs TB...
5.0 ip 7 k 1 er 1 bb 7 h
Vs LAD...
6.0 ip 7 k 1 er 1 bb 6 h
Vs SF...
7.0 ip 3 k 0 er 4 bb 4 h
Totals...
18.0 ip 17 k 2 er 6 bb 17 h
That's a cool 1.00 era vs 2 second place teams and a first place team.
Keep sleeping on my boy, Perez
Saw Mallex last night in pearl. He is lightning fast, but jeez he's swings and misses a ton. He k'd twice, but that doesn't tell the whole story. He missed a lot... Not many foul offs, just plain misses. He needs to fix that. He did get the GW rbi on a hit although it was a gift... Shoulda been a FC rbi.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Haha I like Williams, he battles and has a bit of attitude. I just don't expect him to stick long-term. But by all means, I hope he keeps this up and proves me wrong.
I'm pretty sure you just caught Mallex on a bad night. People questioned his bat, but he's hit at every level, his K rate isn't anything bad, and he always walks a lot.
So far he's showing himself to be the perfect lead off hitter.