2025 MSU Football Recruiting Thread

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

Two of those recruits were to better programs with more prestige than ours. That?s it. USC paid more money to a HS kid than we were willing to give. I respect us not getting into that bidding war.

The issue is the DL Coach whom we just had to have back has not recruited well enough over the last two years. Especially last year which was the reason we brought him back to take advantage of the DL in the state. When several posters brought up the glaring and obvious issue of his lack of recruiting we were told ?several of those players weren?t good? (Franklin, Echols, etc). Turner is living off what he did 10 years ago when he had time to develop guys like AJ Jefferson, Ryan Brown, Preston Smith, Nelson Adams. Well times have changed and he needs to either step up in a hurry or get gone.

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We ain't done losing recruits. We don't have anything outside LB to talk about either. It's not simply Turner. And Franklin was a money guy 100% and OM was who paid up. Echols family is at OM & we liked him as an OL.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

We ain't done losing recruits. We don't have anything outside LB to talk about either. It's not simply Turner. And Franklin was a money guy 100% and OM was who paid up. Echols family is at OM & we liked him as an OL.

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Who would want to play for this unknown (except for our long in the tooth DL coach), rookie "D" staff? Our "D" is a mess with a very questionable group of hires, a near total whiff in the last portal and the lack of returning talent catching up with us. I don't see how anyone looks at our stats and schemes and sees any improvement to date. 2-10 or 3-9 is no improvement over 5-7, even in last year's debacle. Going to be a long rebuilt to win games again in the SEC especially if we don't have a "D" also.

Good news on one of the recruits rumored to be jumping, it appears to be worked out. We'll see on the other. Need a good effort this weekend

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Who would want to play for this unknown (except for our long in the tooth DL coach), rookie "D" staff? Our "D" is a mess with a very questionable group of hires, a near total whiff in the last portal and the lack of returning talent catching up with us. I don't see how anyone looks at our stats and schemes and sees any improvement to date. 2-10 or 3-9 is no improvement over 5-7, even in last year's debacle. Going to be a long rebuilt to win games again in the SEC especially if we don't have a "D" also.

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Not to defend the staff-but not a ?rookie? group. Matt Barnes was the DC at Ohio State and Memphis. Bell has SEC experience as does Hutzler. Has the D been lacking? Yes but you look at the level of recruiting on the DL over the past three years and it?s bad enough to make any LB or DB look bad. The only recruit Turner has brought in is Tysun this year but he won?t be ready to contribute next year. Turner needs to step it up as does everyone else.

I?ve also been a proponent of getting Barnes to call some games prior to last two games.

Barnes got his play calling removed at OSU. His Memphis defense was horridly bad. All those Memphis kids be brought in have been hurt. The fact he and Hutzler can't figure things out and are still making the same mistakes halfway through the season is telling. Talent is poor but so is the coaching. We can't even tackle well & that's the minimum. We need a full reboot on that side. Hire a sitting DC and let him bring in his staff. By the way, Turner is bringing in nothing again. He thinks Juco is the cure.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Barnes got his play calling removed at OSU. His Memphis defense was horridly bad. All those Memphis kids be brought in have been hurt. The fact he and Hutzler can't figure things out and are still making the same mistakes halfway through the season is telling. Talent is poor but so is the coaching. We can't even tackle well & that's the minimum. We need a full reboot on that side. Hire a sitting DC and let him bring in his staff. By the way, Turner is bringing in nothing again. He thinks Juco is the cure.

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Contingency plans have been in place since after ASU. We already have an MOU with a sitting P5 DC. Coleman would keep his position coach duties but be moved to STC. Turner is gone for sure. I would imagine we would have at least one more defensive staff defection in that scenario.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Barnes got his play calling removed at OSU. His Memphis defense was horridly bad. All those Memphis kids be brought in have been hurt. The fact he and Hutzler can't figure things out and are still making the same mistakes halfway through the season is telling. Talent is poor but so is the coaching. We can't even tackle well & that's the minimum. We need a full reboot on that side. Hire a sitting DC and let him bring in his staff. By the way, Turner is bringing in nothing again. He thinks Juco is the cure.

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Literally just said that about Turner and have for two and a half years now

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Contingency plans have been in place since after ASU. We already have an MOU with a sitting P5 DC. Coleman would keep his position coach duties but be moved to STC. Turner is gone for sure. I would imagine we would have at least one more defensive staff defection in that scenario.

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If Hutzler becomes the STC then Odom will be reassigned or leave.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Contingency plans have been in place since after ASU. We already have an MOU with a sitting P5 DC. Coleman would keep his position coach duties but be moved to STC. Turner is gone for sure. I would imagine we would have at least one more defensive staff defection in that scenario.

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Does that sitting P5 DC's name happen to rhyme with "Jerkin"?

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Does that sitting P5 DC's name happen to rhyme with "Jerkin"?

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Or Meoff Smollins

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Originally Posted by RockyDog

Or Meoff Smollins

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North Carolina is allowing 30 PPG. We're allowing 33 PPG.

So let's hope not.

If we continue to play with the effort we've seen the last two weeks Hutzler isn't getting fired or demoted. We are always going to lose recruits for little reason, for no logical reason, or good reason. Especially in the new era.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Contingency plans have been in place since after ASU. We already have an MOU with a sitting P5 DC. Coleman would keep his position coach duties but be moved to STC. Turner is gone for sure. I would imagine we would have at least one more defensive staff defection in that scenario.

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Hahaha. What about a current P4 Head Coach that currently makes his residency in Waco? Can we get a MOU with him to become our DC in 2025?

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

Hahaha. What about a current P4 Head Coach that currently makes his residency in Waco? Can we get a MOU with him to become our DC in 2025?

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Not happening

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

Hahaha. What about a current P4 Head Coach that currently makes his residency in Waco? Can we get a MOU with him to become our DC in 2025?

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It won't be Aranda.

I think Aranda is overrated as a DC anyway.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think Aranda is overrated as a DC anyway.

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When you've got LSU talent it's hard to be a bad DC.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

When you've got LSU talent it's hard to be a bad DC.

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And even that year they were concerned because of what OM did to them when Plumlee ran for like 200 yds on them

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

When you've got LSU talent it's hard to be a bad DC.

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For real. They have some freakish athletes every year.

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