Now, Rosebowl has quickly changed his tune to that he doesn?t know . It?s between SMU and State and announcement tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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Now, Rosebowl has quickly changed his tune to that he doesn?t know . It?s between SMU and State and announcement tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Robertson knows what the agents feed him. My honest guess, Evans had someone come to him that upped the offer and now we have risen our offer. I also think Evans has a really good agent.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
That?s what I gather too. Evans was drifting away but we sent the cavalry to get some momentum back.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Man, what a difference 12 months makes. This time last year Bumphis was considered the top recruiter on the entire staff and now he is on thin ice? How does a guy go from killing in HS recruiting and portal recruiting one year to continually striking out the next? Especially when you turn around a previous non-producer like Coleman and mold him into a first team all-SEC type guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
WRONG....Lebby is that person. Let's we forget Lebby couldn't even get his former Qb to follow him. I don't care to hear the excuses about money. The Qb is going to a school that EVERYONE knows may be fired next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
The WR's were the ONLY consistent and bright spot on offense. It's also the only group that has consistently landed top talent. Players want to get paid and WIN. We were 2-10 last year.
You're asking a player to come from a national powerhouse to a current doormat program and think it's the position coach? You and any source your stand on are wrong on this. It's between State and a playoff contender team from last year. He can have money AND the playoffs....yeah..... easy pick imo.
The only reason he's looking at state is because of what the WR'S have done. Coleman was an average WR until Bumphis. Craver was an All SEC WR because of Bumphis. Bumphis isn't the problem.
Bumphis is not on thin ice
I tend to believe this more than Bumphis just simply not closing. When the product you're selling just shat the bed for everyone to see, it's going to be a tough sell no matter who you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Hell, if he weren't an alum I could see him leaving on his own will next year if the overall product doesn't improve.
Fair or not he was hyped up to be an ace recruiter and while I can't say he has been bad he failed to land Cunningham and we aren't in on Keyes and McKenzie for the next cycle.
It's tough because he has to deal with Espy and Hodge steering every WR worth a darn away from MSU. Also his connections with some MSU personalities probably doesn't help his cause fair or not.
Wrong, boosters run the programs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
No it's not. Cunningham isn't on the roster first of all. And we aren't in on the other two at all. It is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
That definitely hurt him with the last staff because he was the leak with the Briles stuff. I don't know how much it hurt him with this staff. I just think he's an outsider to how they do things. If he wasn't an alum he wouldn't be on staff. He is going to have to start making connections with Hodge and Espy and playing nice with them. They like Lebby. They don't like Bumphis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Lol we upgraded over Arnold, who has flaws with his throwing motion, and Lebby has proven over many years to have productive WR's in the offense.
The reason we wanted Arnold was familiarity in the system. We knew he could do it for one to two years and teach Kamario. We never thought he was this can't miss prospect. Kromehoek is the much better prospect. When you put Arnold in a good system and a system he knows, he's an above average P4 QB. He is not in that system at Auburn. He'll win the job and be their starter because they're paying him far too much money, but he's not taking them to 9 wins. And 9 wins is probably what Hugh needs to save his job. Or to beat Bama, which could happen. I think the loser of Iron Bowl is fired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
It wouldn't have mattered who the WR coach is, Cunningham stated he would not sign with us because we are a rebuild with a losing record. It's that simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
And I think that would've been ok if we hadn't been hearing for two years how great of a recruiter Bumphis was and how great of relationship he had with Cunningham. I think if the fan boy media had just said from day 1, "it's going to be really difficult to get this kid because he's going to be one of the top receivers in the country" then people would've tempered their expectations. I mean at the end of the day, the frustration with Bumphis is due to Hadad and Faulk telling everyone how amazing he is and he craps gold. Like, he's a position coach who just happened to play here. If he didn't play here and hadn't had a podcast on Brian Hadad's old network, no one would care about Chad Bumphis. Because I don't really hear them clamoring for us to bring back Pernell McPhee, who should be our DL coach right now. Or why were they not foaming at the mouth to bring back Chaney? Those two set Bumphis up for failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
I said this when he was hired. Chad Bumphis will max out as a position coach. There isn't much upward movement potential with him. I don't think he will ever be in position to be an offensive coordinator. I think someone like L'Damian Washingon has more of an upward trajectory in his career because of his history in the Briles system as a coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I think he could be if he would've stayed in that Mullen system, spread power system. Because he was at Utah as a GA with Whittingham, who runs that, and then went to Austin Peay with Hud, who runs that, and went back to Utah with Whittingham. But he now has tried to be an air raid position coach, and was a whatever the hell we were running last year position coach and a veer and shoot position coach. Most coaches don't jump systems like that and upwardly progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
As list of worries go, bump is way down the list. His group was the best position on the team last year.
Also, Espy has been better since he got on staff at MRA. Hopefully that continues.
Mike has been a little better. Mostly because he saw that he had to start distancing himself from Shay because of how hardline Shay was. I do know that Mike and Shay are both pissed at Kiffin and Co. right now over the Ayden Williams stuff. He was going to transfer last year, and they told both Ayden and Mike and Shay that he'd be a starter this past year.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Or it could just be that he doesn't want to be part of a rebuild and wants to see a clearer path to actually contending for something. Plain and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We also knew Cunningham was going to wait and see how we turned out this year. Well, hate to break it to everyone, but we failed miserably. MSU never had a chance with Cunningham after Toledo. And who would blame him?
I'd imagine most MSU fans haven't even listened to a second of Hadad and Faulk. I can still be frustrated with the recruiting and not totally blame one single person for the problem.