Yep, every year, same shitQuote:
Originally Posted by NCDawg
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Yep, every year, same shitQuote:
Originally Posted by NCDawg
We will if he winsQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
He lost when he had the better teamQuote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
He won more games this year than Mullen averaged.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
With a better roster than what Mullen averaged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Mullen mostly never lost games in which we were favored. This year Moorhead lost 3 of those
In a year he should have won 2-3 more. You can't be seriousQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
There is no way in hell you can pin this loss on Moorhead, with this drama queen. This is a misguided kid that doesn't know what he's doing. Just read the tweet, it's pitiful.
We need to get the Birmingham kid in the boat and hope for a miracle with Young.
So you know that did it? Thats some pretty dang good insight right there. Shocked that hasn't been spoken before as a major factor in his decision. Hate it took until January for that to be his deciding factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
That is ridiculous. Most all MSU fans I have any contact with REALLY like Moorhead on a personal level. He fits with our fanbase WAY more than Mullen ever did. That said, fans still want to see results on the field and this year's results were marginal at best on offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Like I said, some fans won’t ever accept Moorhead. Other than FL and IA, I don’t see wins regardless of the coach. But our fans are treating him just like they did Croom. And part of that is on our AD for grabbing up a guy nobody knew, from up north, and basically no HC experience. I get it. I don’t agree with it, but I get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I don?t either and one of the OL that signed is a project. Now we are going after his teammate, a low rated DL. I think we hold on to Pickering and Walker but I?m not optimistic that we will finish strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Ari, IYOK, any good news or hope out there?
I don't care about "connecting" with the coach. I only care about winning. That's what they are paid to doQuote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Bingo. I do not know a single MSU fan personally that does not like Moorhead. We all want him to succeed on the field and on the recruiting trail. Shit like not even trying to neutralize a DE at kentucky that was whippin the bloody hell out of you drives us crazy. Moorhead just misses some easy shit. Hope it was 1st year problems and he gets the team cleaned up for this upcoming year.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Bull shit, I was all in on Joe until he botched what should have been a great season. Win the games you should and everybody will love you. He didn't. Quit making excuses for him and acting like there's no reason to be mad at the guy. You know it's bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Cooter was blasting Moorhead after Kentucky and Florida. Now he worships joeQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
The post I responded to had to do with MSU fans not "accepting" Moorhead. Usually people who aren't accepted are either not liked or folks don't believe they will fit. So far I don't think Moorhead has done enough on the field for most folks to buy in 100% but he certainly hasn't done poorly enough for people to be jumping off the bandwagon either. To compare Moorhead's situation to Croom (who other than one year was consistently at 3 to 4 wins) is ludicrous.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I was too. But I've decided to be patient and wait and see. The sky isn't always falling so rapidly. In 2011, Mullen had a terrible class that took us to #1. Joe gotta get offense implemented and clean up some discipline issues relative to smack talking, twittering, in game stupid PF penalties, etc. There are a lot of positive things that are taking place and he is still learning too.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Now if Shoop leaves ... that would be a blow IMO.
I’m not for firing a guy that won 8 games. Especially with shitty talent on offense that doesn’t remotely match the scheme. Jo ain’t perfect, but we still have damn good shots at Mingo, Plumlee, & James. The rest is going to be rough other than Pickering. We ain’t getting Young. Who knows with Moore. I think Jo has his QB and will have his WRs next year.
15 Four stars and 1 Five star in Mississippi this year. As of this moment we have 3 signed and 1 more committed.
BrutalQuote:
Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most)
The freak out isn’t over yet. More to come.
This is getting so old. Name an offensive player that would start for another SEC team? I'll wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Aeris, Kylin, Guidry, Jenkins, Williams, Fitz to name a few. Counter that with the #1 D in the country, 8-5 was an unacceptable failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
Fitz at QB for another team? Or another position?Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I’m convinced MSU has the worst bagmen on earth.
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Originally Posted by Hambone
Yeah I don?t see it. Moore had a below average year went to the all star games saw all the attention those uncommitted kids were getting and de committed. Moore?s potential is very high but he tends to take plays and games off. I?m gonna say we get him on campus and smooth things over but if we don?t at least this staff had back up plans. BTW the DL from Birmingham does has power 5 offers and I?d about to blow upQuote:
Originally Posted by Hambone
Jenkins, Calhoun and Hill.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
I just read his decommit tweet. Dude is basically saying he wants a hook-up if football doesn't work out so he is decommitting. Good luck to the guy. State could have put him in the league (see the current playoff games) but with an attitude like that he's going to have a long and tough life. Would have been nice to have him but I'm not too sure about him now after reading that tweet. I hope he comes to his senses but if he doesn't then someone else will take his place here.
I think Moorhead is doing ok on the recruiting trail at the moment. He's got a solid B so far and it's his first real class. Depending on how he finishes out that could go up to a solid A or drop to a C. I think no lower than that though. He's obviously still learning.
We should have Cohen's ass if he ever hires another football coach that apparently needs to learn as much as you guys say Moorhead does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
The entire point of paying someone 2+ mill is that you can get someone who doesn't have to learn on the job. Complete tomfoolery IMO that we hired someone who essentially, in your opinion, had no idea what he was doing.
You can't have it both ways. You can't make one post that you trust Moorhead and in the next post let him off the hook because he's still learning
What? 2 million is a lot of money. It also makes JoMo the lowest paid head coach in the SEC. It's exactly what you pay a coach in the SEC who has to learn a thing or two. I'm not giving him a pass at all. But I don't think this thread is the place to argue over this.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Having read the tweet that Moore put out it appears he is REALLY confused or a total punk. Because he addresses injury but MSU stuck with him through his actual injury and maintained his scholarship offer. Personally, dude looks like he is openly trying to make some money before he commits somewhere. As a program we need to back off of him. It is a bad look on his part.
Oh my...you really have no clue. You think Guidry and Fitz would start at other SEC schools?? That is the funniest thing on here in awhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Moore de-committting has been expected and there?s more to the story then what is out there, I?m leaving it at that.
And as someone who has kept up with recruiting for awhile in the state, a good number of those guys will never pan out. (Pat Patterson, Chris Garret, Lashley, Knott, Damien Robinson, Jake Thomas, Morrow, etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most)
I bet you have absolutely no clue what the rest of the story is.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Shit post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
Comparing this class to Mullen's last 5. First off, this class avg per recruit is better than any Mullen had, which is the first measure I look at. Is it sustainable though, and does it move us up in the conference rankings wise? So for this class and Mullen's last 5, I'm giving avg per recruit, rank in sec, and number of 88 rated or higher players in miss. I used 88 bc that almost always lands an OM or state offer.
'19: .8840 per recruit, 11th in sec, 18 at 88+*
'17: .8611, 9th, 8
'16: .8768, 11th, 11
'15: .8769, 9th, 9
'14: .8484, 12th, 10
'13: .8622, 10th, 6
*cunningham, payton, walker, Washington, James, and Emerson are all included. Not sure any are locks to be included after signing day.
Not sure what all this means, but it appears we aren't gonna make up any ground in the sec in a historic level of talent in Mississippi
Whatever man. Our AD decides to take a gamble and save some cash. It’s coming back and biting him in the ass. If that’s a shit post then it is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I don?t understand why our fans start posting negative posts about these kids when they still may decide they want to come to MSU. It makes no sense
Fitz would have started at Arky, Vandy, Tennessee, Florida and would have pushed Wilson at Kentucky. So he's better than 4-5 other SEC QBs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Guidry would start at a lot of schools too. Vandy, Kentucky, TN, Arky for sure, probably Auburn, A&M, SC. Would have been in the rotation at literally every team though
I have absolutely more information then you have ever brought to this board and have proven that time and time again. So maybe you need to quit posting until you actually bring something to the board instead of being the biggest baby in association with Mississippi State.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg