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11-23-2013, 01:57 PM
C222

Someone blaming that on Knox...... Hahahahahahhahahahaha
11-23-2013, 01:57 PM
archdog

For the record I like Milton. Atleast he hits the running lane hard and has good vision with cuts. I say run him again. If I see another RB try three running moves before he gets to the line of scrimmage I could punch a baby in the face.
11-23-2013, 01:57 PM
Todd4State

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Yes I am. Do you think Mullen makes every single personnel decision on every play? That's insane to think. Mullen can't micromanage every little thing. Position coaches have to put the guys in the right situation and Milton being in there is not Mullen's fault. There's a reason Auburn got rid of Knox. He wasn't a good field coach and that's common knowledge. Auburn's WRs sucked under him.

Dixon and Ballard covered up a lot of mistakes because they are great backs and were every down backs. We don't have an every down back right now except for Shump and maybe J Rob.

Are you trying to tell us that Dan doesn't know who is going out on the field and can't tell a position coach "no"? Sometimes you have to mircomanage if it's the best thing for the team.
11-23-2013, 01:58 PM
Bothrops

Milton is actually a nice runner but with no ball security it's all negated.
11-23-2013, 01:59 PM
Bothrops

Did Nick Griffin get a position change?
11-23-2013, 01:59 PM
Todd4State

Quote:

Originally Posted by archdog

For the record I like Milton. Atleast he hits the running lane hard and has good vision with cuts. I say run him again. If I see another RB try three running moves before he gets to the line of scrimmage I could punch a baby in the face.

We have two running backs that are better. Why not just play them?
11-23-2013, 01:59 PM
BulldogBear

We better come out swinging and I think scoring on the first drive is crucial to victory
11-23-2013, 01:59 PM
BankerDog

You all have been begging for Milton. He has the best potential on the team but he can't hold onto the ball. Two times in two years he's cost us a game. And just last night he was talking about how he was getting an opportunity and was gonna take it.

Shumpert is taking JRob's pt. JRob isn't helping himself by calling out coaches on twitter either.
11-23-2013, 01:59 PM
LiterallyPolice

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarketingBully01

Bull shit. That is on Mullen. You are going to blame this on Knox? Seriously?

Well, if we give full blame to Mullen for Milton's fumble, we have to give him full credit for the forced fumble on special teams. But oddly, I don't see 900 posts lauding him for that play.

Many of you guys have lost all ability to see things objectively.
11-23-2013, 02:00 PM
PMDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

Yes I am. Do you think Mullen makes every single personnel decision on every play? That's insane to think. Mullen can't micromanage every little thing. Position coaches have to put the guys in the right situation and Milton being in there is not Mullen's fault. There's a reason Auburn got rid of Knox. He wasn't a good field coach and that's common knowledge. Auburn's WRs sucked under him.

Dixon and Ballard covered up a lot of mistakes because they are great backs and were every down backs. We don't have an every down back right now except for Shump and maybe J Rob.

I'm guessing you've never been in a leadership position. Mullen hired him, Mullen teaches and advises him, and Mullen has the final say. When you are over a team, a project, a business, etc. it is on YOU if the jobs not getting done.

And I like how you say we don't have any every down backs, except for maybe two. Lmao. How many do you want is to have? And why the **** are they never used? Knox again? Please.
11-23-2013, 02:01 PM
Jacksondevildog

I can remember 2 Milton plays in his career: The fumble at LSU last year that hit him in his face mask and that fumble right there. Both were horrid and killed momentum on the road.
11-23-2013, 02:01 PM
Will James

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Originally Posted by LiterallyPolice

Well, if we give full blame to Mullen for Milton's fumble, we have to give him full credit for the forced fumble on special teams. But oddly, I don't see 900 posts lauding him for that play.

Many of you guys have lost all ability to see things objectively.

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. idiot
11-23-2013, 02:01 PM
MetEdDawg

I just like that everything is Dan's fault. Every single personnel decision on every single play is Dan's responsibility? Come on guys that's grasping at straws. Of course they talk about stuff during meetings all week. But if Perkins is out and J Rob is out (assuming), then Milton is back in the equation. If you think Knox brought up using Milton, don't you think he should get equal blame for suggesting something so stupid? Of course not. You would rather blame Mullen 100%.

If Perkins is out, that changes the game. No J Rob so assuming something must be wrong with him. Now we are down to 3 RBs. Milton comes back in the equation now IMO. I want more Shumpert but come one guys. Knox is the RB coach. What the hell does he do on game day? Sit around and let Dan do everything? No. He has to make decisions to and blaming Mullen for the shitty RB personnel decisions this year without also pointing a finger at Knox is insanity.
11-23-2013, 02:02 PM
ckDOG

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

You all have been begging for Milton. He has the best potential on the team but he can't hold onto the ball. Two times in two years he's cost us a game. And just last night he was talking about how he was getting an opportunity and was gonna take it.

Shumpert is taking JRob's pt. JRob isn't helping himself by calling out coaches on twitter either.

I forgot Milton was on the team to be honest.
11-23-2013, 02:03 PM
Todd4State

Quote:

Originally Posted by BankerDog

You all have been begging for Milton. He has the best potential on the team but he can't hold onto the ball. Two times in two years he's cost us a game. And just last night he was talking about how he was getting an opportunity and was gonna take it.

Shumpert is taking JRob's pt. JRob isn't helping himself by calling out coaches on twitter either.

I don't blame Robinson.

Robinson- 275 yards, 2 rushing TD's, 5.4 average.

Perkins- 458 yards coming into today, 2 rushing TD's, 4.3 average.
11-23-2013, 02:03 PM
LiterallyPolice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will James

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. idiot

Nice rebuttal Will James. Stick with baseball.
11-23-2013, 02:03 PM
CadaverDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

I just like that everything is Dan's fault. Every single personnel decision on every single play is Dan's responsibility? Come on guys that's grasping at straws. Of course they talk about stuff during meetings all week. But if Perkins is out and J Rob is out (assuming), then Milton is back in the equation. If you think Knox brought up using Milton, don't you think he should get equal blame for suggesting something so stupid? Of course not. You would rather blame Mullen 100%.

If Perkins is out, that changes the game. No J Rob so assuming something must be wrong with him. Now we are down to 3 RBs. Milton comes back in the equation now IMO. I want more Shumpert but come one guys. Knox is the RB coach. What the hell does he do on game day? Sit around and let Dan do everything? No. He has to make decisions to and blaming Mullen for the shitty RB personnel decisions this year without also pointing a finger at Knox is insanity.

Take off he blinders. We have Griffin AND Shumpert. Both are bigger backs and we were on the goal line. I don't give a rats ass who suggested Milton....it shows pure stupidity for our head coach/Offensive play caller, not to overrule that suggestion.
11-23-2013, 02:04 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ckDOG

I forgot Milton was on the team to be honest.

Well now you won't forget mr Milton
11-23-2013, 02:04 PM
BankerDog

Position coaches decides who plays. Mullen might have some influence but in the heat of the moment, position coaches send their guys out. You really think Mullen decides when Clyborn goes in or how the D subs?
11-23-2013, 02:04 PM
ShotgunDawg

Fellas,

They make a depth chart before every game, and Dan has full veto power of it. Dan knew there was a chance Milton could be used right there. Completely unacceptable. No awareness for the game, NONE.

Dan isn't a bad coach, but he is an awful manager
11-23-2013, 02:04 PM
MarketingBully01

The funny thing is if we listened to Andre Ware (which I agreed with) we would have been up 21-10 at the half. Instead, Mullen Dorfs his way through this offense and we only come up with 10 points. Their secondary is terrible. If Mullen injured Tyler's shoulder on that QB draw, he should be fired on principal. I say If Hud wants the MSU job we should just give it to him. I am officially off the Mullen bandwagon.
11-23-2013, 02:04 PM
PMDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

I just like that everything is Dan's fault. Every single personnel decision on every single play is Dan's responsibility? Come on guys that's grasping at straws. Of course they talk about stuff during meetings all week. But if Perkins is out and J Rob is out (assuming), then Milton is back in the equation. If you think Knox brought up using Milton, don't you think he should get equal blame for suggesting something so stupid? Of course not. You would rather blame Mullen 100%.

If Perkins is out, that changes the game. No J Rob so assuming something must be wrong with him. Now we are down to 3 RBs. Milton comes back in the equation now IMO. I want more Shumpert but come one guys. Knox is the RB coach. What the hell does he do on game day? Sit around and let Dan do everything? No. He has to make decisions to and blaming Mullen for the shitty RB personnel decisions this year without also pointing a finger at Knox is insanity.

Of course it's his fault!!!!! He's the ****ing boss! That's why he makes 5-10 times what Knox and his other subordinates make.
11-23-2013, 02:04 PM
Apoplectic

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

I just like that everything is Dan's fault. Every single personnel decision on every single play is Dan's responsibility? Come on guys that's grasping at straws. Of course they talk about stuff during meetings all week. But if Perkins is out and J Rob is out (assuming), then Milton is back in the equation. If you think Knox brought up using Milton, don't you think he should get equal blame for suggesting something so stupid? Of course not. You would rather blame Mullen 100%.

If Perkins is out, that changes the game. No J Rob so assuming something must be wrong with him. Now we are down to 3 RBs. Milton comes back in the equation now IMO. I want more Shumpert but come one guys. Knox is the RB coach. What the hell does he do on game day? Sit around and let Dan do everything? No. He has to make decisions to and blaming Mullen for the shitty RB personnel decisions this year without also pointing a finger at Knox is insanity.

So every dumas decision this year has been someone elses fault?
11-23-2013, 02:05 PM
Todd4State

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

I just like that everything is Dan's fault. Every single personnel decision on every single play is Dan's responsibility? Come on guys that's grasping at straws. Of course they talk about stuff during meetings all week. But if Perkins is out and J Rob is out (assuming), then Milton is back in the equation. If you think Knox brought up using Milton, don't you think he should get equal blame for suggesting something so stupid? Of course not. You would rather blame Mullen 100%.

If Perkins is out, that changes the game. No J Rob so assuming something must be wrong with him. Now we are down to 3 RBs. Milton comes back in the equation now IMO. I want more Shumpert but come one guys. Knox is the RB coach. What the hell does he do on game day? Sit around and let Dan do everything? No. He has to make decisions to and blaming Mullen for the shitty RB personnel decisions this year without also pointing a finger at Knox is insanity.

OK how about this- Knox is a dumbass for suggesting it and Dan is a dumbass for allowing it. Everyone happy?
11-23-2013, 02:05 PM
BankerDog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd4State

I don't blame Robinson.

Robinson- 275 yards, 2 rushing TD's, 5.4 average.

Perkins- 458 yards coming into today, 2 rushing TD's, 4.3 average.

I don't blame him either I love JRob, but there is a time and place for everything. You guys know that. You have a problem you go to the coach not put crap out on social media.
11-23-2013, 02:06 PM
PMDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Fellas,

They make a depth chart before every game, and Dan has full veto power of it. Dan knew there was a chance Milton could be used right there. Completely unacceptable. No awareness for the game, NONE.

Dan isn't a bad coach, but he is an awful manager

You're getting there. 6 more quarters should do it. Marketingbully is finally on board.
11-23-2013, 02:06 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

OK how about this- Knox is a dumbass for suggesting it and Dan is a dumbass for allowing it. Everyone happy?

Bingo.

I don't give a shit who brought it up...Mullen is still the moron that didn't veto that suggestion. We have 4 backs ahead of him on the depth chart. F. O. U. R
11-23-2013, 02:06 PM
ShotgunDawg

Dan has 30 minutes of football to save his job
11-23-2013, 02:06 PM
Todd4State

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckDOG

I forgot Milton was on the team to be honest.

I was begging for Milton. To be turned into a fullback.
11-23-2013, 02:07 PM
ShotgunDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd4State

I was begging for Milton. To be turned into a fullback.

THis, he can add good weight
11-23-2013, 02:08 PM
Todd4State

Quote:

Originally Posted by BankerDog

I don't blame him either I love JRob, but there is a time and place for everything. You guys know that. You have a problem you go to the coach not put crap out on social media.

I agree with you on that. I just wanted an opportunity to hammer home how idiotic Dan is.
11-23-2013, 02:08 PM
msstate7

Everyone calm down. We're about to kick the crap outta Arkansas
11-23-2013, 02:08 PM
MetEdDawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by BankerDog

Position coaches decides who plays. Mullen might have some influence but in the heat of the moment, position coaches send their guys out. You really think Mullen decides when Clyborn goes in or how the D subs?

This all day. Thank you for making sense. Everyone on here blames Mullen for everything. We aren't pointing at WR personnel, OL personnel, CB personnel, LB personnel, or DL personnel. Two most mismanaged positions on the field this year are RB and QB and those position coaches are Knox and Koenning. Both should go. I didn't like the Knox hire to begin with. My Auburn friends were glad to get rid of him and laughed when I said we got him. Hell even my Alabama friends laughed because they knew he was no good.

You Mullen haters need to take your blinders off and quit blaming everything on Mullen because you want him gone. You can place some blame on Mullen, but 100%? Stupid.
11-23-2013, 02:08 PM
HereComesTheSpiral

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd4State

We have two running backs that are better. Why not just play them?

That makes too much sense
11-23-2013, 02:08 PM
Tbonewannabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiterallyPolice

Well, if we give full blame to Mullen for Milton's fumble, we have to give him full credit for the forced fumble on special teams. But oddly, I don't see 900 posts lauding him for that play.

Many of you guys have lost all ability to see things objectively.

People are blaming the fumble on Mullen, Milton being on the field is what they are blaming him for.
11-23-2013, 02:08 PM
C222

I really can't believe someone is putting that on Knox. Unreal.
11-23-2013, 02:08 PM
thf24

Looking back after my surge of rage has passed, it makes a little sense to play Milton since he was probably our best two-minute back option available at that point. Stress A LITTLE. I still would rather have seen J-Rob or Shumpert in, but I don't think it was a 100% dumbass move. More like 85%.
11-23-2013, 02:09 PM
Will James

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiterallyPolice

Nice rebuttal Will James. Stick with baseball.

Oh my God!! Personnel decisions should NOT be an issue that we have to ****ing deal with!!!!!!!!!!!

"Well we made a good play there so you have to give credit to Dan"

Moron. Playing good football is not a 50-50 tradeoff. Some things are UNACCEPTABLE. As you have seen, our good play calls have resulted in praise in this thread. We are so used to AWFUL gameday coaching, you are now stretching to get PRAISE for a coach just doing his DAMN JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
11-23-2013, 02:09 PM
Bothrops

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd4State

I was begging for Milton. To be turned into a fullback.

Too small for fullback. Griffin..maybe
11-23-2013, 02:09 PM
ckDOG

Quote:

Originally Posted by BankerDog

Position coaches decides who plays. Mullen might have some influence but in the heat of the moment, position coaches send their guys out. You really think Mullen decides when Clyborn goes in or how the D subs?

Holy hell, everybody knows that the position coaches are getting their guys in and out of the game on a play by play basis. It's the fact this was even a possibility that is mind blowing. That's the point. It should be discussed before the game that certain players only go in on emergency basis.

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