THE 2020 MSU Football Recruiting Talk Thread

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'm guessing we go after the Vanderbilt DT in the transfer portal and I found it interesting that the guy from Rice is still in it.

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Yeah there aren't many DT's available that could really help us. Plenty of DE's though.

I get the vibe that we'll have more success in-state this year, mostly due to the fact that the state isn't loaded like it was last year for the big guys to come poach. But there are still some talented players in this class.

Already committed:
WR Lideatrick Griffin - 4*
DB/ATH Javorrius Selmon - 4*
WR Alex Adams - will be a 4*
DE Jevon Banks - 3*
QB Will Rogers - 3*
CB Emmanuel Forbes - 3*
DT Armondous Cooley - 3*
OL Calvin McMillan - 3*

Great shot at getting:
RB/DB Dillon Johnson - 4*
WR E. Jai Mason - 4*
OL Xavier Hill - 3*
S Janari Dean - should be 4*
DT Montra Edwards - 3*
CB Cameron Threatt - 3*
OL Kahlil Benson - 3*
RB Trey Benson - 3*
DT Leviticus Madison - 3*

I think we'll have a good year in state and get most of these guys

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I get the vibe that we'll have more success in-state this year, mostly due to the fact that the state isn't loaded like it was last year for the big guys to come poach. But there are still some talented players in this class.

Already committed:
WR Lideatrick Griffin - 4*
DB/ATH Javorrius Selmon - 4*
WR Alex Adams - will be a 4*
DE Jevon Banks - 3*
QB Will Rogers - 3*
CB Emmanuel Forbes - 3*
DT Armondous Cooley - 3*
OL Calvin McMillan - 3*

Great shot at getting:
RB/DB Dillon Johnson - 4*
WR E. Jai Mason - 4*
OL Xavier Hill - 3*
S Janari Dean - should be 4*
DT Montra Edwards - 3*
CB Cameron Threatt - 3*
OL Kahlil Benson - 3*
RB Trey Benson - 3*
DT Leviticus Madison - 3*

I think we'll have a good year in state and get most of these guys

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And I'd take every single one of them in a heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by msu15

And I'd take every single one of them in a heartbeat.

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Probably won't get every one of them. You'll have a flip or two and just miss on a couple, but we have a great shot with all of those guys plus a few more I probably left out that will blow up later

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I get the vibe that we'll have more success in-state this year, mostly due to the fact that the state isn't loaded like it was last year for the big guys to come poach. But there are still some talented players in this class.

Already committed:
WR Lideatrick Griffin - 4*
DB/ATH Javorrius Selmon - 4*
WR Alex Adams - will be a 4*
DE Jevon Banks - 3*
QB Will Rogers - 3*
CB Emmanuel Forbes - 3*
DT Armondous Cooley - 3*
OL Calvin McMillan - 3*

Great shot at getting:
RB/DB Dillon Johnson - 4*
WR E. Jai Mason - 4*
OL Xavier Hill - 3*
S Janari Dean - should be 4*
DT Montra Edwards - 3*
CB Cameron Threatt - 3*
OL Kahlil Benson - 3*
RB Trey Benson - 3*
DT Leviticus Madison - 3*

I think we'll have a good year in state and get most of these guys

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For the thats a lot of 3* crowd

Xavier Hill 8 SEC Offers 9 P5 Offers

Janari Dean 4 SEC Offers 5 P5 Offers

Montra Edwards 5 SEC Offers 13 P5 Offers

Cameron Threatt 3 SEC Offers 5 P5 Offers

Kahlil Benson 3 SEC Offers

Trey Benson 4 SEC Offers 14 P5 Offers

Leviticus Madison 3 SEC Offers 4 P5 Offers

So these guys aren't diamond in the rough guys. They're SEC Prospects.

Thanks for that IYOK!

E Jai is coming dont worry about him

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

For the thats a lot of 3* crowd

Xavier Hill 8 SEC Offers 9 P5 Offers

Janari Dean 4 SEC Offers 5 P5 Offers

Montra Edwards 5 SEC Offers 13 P5 Offers

Cameron Threatt 3 SEC Offers 5 P5 Offers

Kahlil Benson 3 SEC Offers

Trey Benson 4 SEC Offers 14 P5 Offers

Leviticus Madison 3 SEC Offers 4 P5 Offers

So these guys aren't diamond in the rough guys. They're SEC Prospects.

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And we are going to get a couple of big time juco guys. We have one right now in Lawson
That’s the one thing that saved our ass 3 years ago. Sweat, Abram, Rivers, Cole, Landrews, Autry, Champion

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

And we are going to get a couple of big time juco guys. We have one right now in Lawson
That’s the one thing that saved our ass 3 years ago. Sweat, Abram, Rivers, Cole, Landrews, Autry, Champion

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Tyre Phillips was also a JUCO in that class I believe. He'll get to make his impact this year,

We won the SECW in '98 with predominately JC players.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Great shot at getting:

OL Kahlil Benson - 3*
RB Trey Benson - 3*

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Thanks added to the list in the other post to track. All others were already on there and I updated everything earlier today.

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

For the thats a lot of 3* crowd

Xavier Hill 8 SEC Offers 9 P5 Offers

Janari Dean 4 SEC Offers 5 P5 Offers

Montra Edwards 5 SEC Offers 13 P5 Offers

Cameron Threatt 3 SEC Offers 5 P5 Offers

Kahlil Benson 3 SEC Offers

Trey Benson 4 SEC Offers 14 P5 Offers

Leviticus Madison 3 SEC Offers 4 P5 Offers

So these guys aren't diamond in the rough guys. They're SEC Prospects.

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I think the in state class could be better than a lot of people realize.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think the in state class could be better than a lot of people realize.

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Well I hope people continue not to realize it. People realizing it last year hurt us.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think the in state class could be better than a lot of people realize.

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Agree with that

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

E Jai is coming dont worry about him

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Is a bigger question whether he's slipping down our board? He seems to be sliding down the in-state rating list and we seem to be looking at a ton of WR this year.

We need to be looking at a ton of wide receivers this year.

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Originally Posted by Irondawg

Is a bigger question whether he's slipping down our board? He seems to be sliding down the in-state rating list and we seem to be looking at a ton of WR this year.

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Yeah, I don't think that is a question. I am just wondering who this years leader of the recruiting class will be.

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

Yeah, I don't think that is a question. I am just wondering who this years leader of the recruiting class will be.

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Will Rogers

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Will Rogers

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Him and Jevon Banks

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Originally Posted by NCDawg

We won the SECW in '98 with predominately JC players.

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We also tanked with too many JC players (of course the UM witch hunt against Jackie made it hard to get HS players), the last couple of years under the Kang. It has to be a good balance and players that can help at once. I think Jackie said once that unless a JC player can start a once or be a good backup, it is a waste of a scholarship.

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

We also tanked with too many JC players (of course the UM witch hunt against Jackie made it hard to get HS players), the last couple of years under the Kang. It has to be a good balance and players that can help at once. I think Jackie said once that unless a JC player can start a once or be a good backup, it is a waste of a scholarship.

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I think JUCO's are good if you have misses in previous recruiting classes at position groups and you want to get back up to speed quickly. See our defense in 2016 vs 2017-18 as exhibit A.

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

We also tanked with too many JC players (of course the UM witch hunt against Jackie made it hard to get HS players), the last couple of years under the Kang. It has to be a good balance and players that can help at once. I think Jackie said once that unless a JC player can start a once or be a good backup, it is a waste of a scholarship.

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There is a difference to getting juco talent guys and D1 juco guys (Sweat, Rivers , ect)
We have done extremely well in the juco ranks last few years.
I expect this year to be above average as well

Five Star receiver, Rakim Jarrett says that we are his sleeper team in recruitment. Yet it says we have offered him which confuses me.

Haven’t*

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Originally Posted by ejdallas322

Five Star receiver, Rakim Jarrett says that we are his sleeper team in recruitment. Yet it says we have offered him which confuses me.

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And he'll sleep right past us. We're not even in his top 6

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

And he'll sleep right past us. We're not even in his top 6

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If this staff thinks we have a legit shot at landing this kid we will recruit him as hard as anyone will ..

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'm guessing we go after the Vanderbilt DT in the transfer portal and I found it interesting that the guy from Rice is still in it.

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What happened with the guy from Rice? There are 2 guys from LSU in the portal, 1 from Arky, 1 from Vandy, and 1 from Ohio State who recently visited Penn State. All of these guys are immediately eligible. I don't know anything about them though except the guy from Ohio State is a stud who has had to deal with injuries.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

What happened with the guy from Rice? There are 2 guys from LSU in the portal, 1 from Arky, 1 from Vandy, and 1 from Ohio State who recently visited Penn State. All of these guys are immediately eligible. I don't know anything about them though except the guy from Ohio State is a stud who has had to deal with injuries.

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He allegedly was going to TCU to be closer to home. But apparently he hasn't pulled the trigger on that. Not sure if we are still interested in him or not- but my guess would be not or not that much.

Florida also has a former 4 star DT from Alabama in the portal as well

Again, it baffles me that we aren't a highly thought of program with D-lineman recruits, and even transfers around the land. If OM can still get WR's from other parts of the country to jump on board regardless of scheme, and if we continue to get passed over by numerous DL' s, even in our own state, what can you attribute this to?

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Originally Posted by jacksondawg

Florida also has a former 4 star DT from Alabama in the portal as well

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Graduate?

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Again, it baffles me that we aren't a highly thought of program with D-lineman recruits, and even transfers around the land. If OM can still get WR's from other parts of the country to jump on board regardless of scheme, and if we continue to get passed over by numerous DL' s, even in our own state, what can you attribute this to?

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$$$$$

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Again, it baffles me that we aren't a highly thought of program with D-lineman recruits, and even transfers around the land. If OM can still get WR's from other parts of the country to jump on board regardless of scheme, and if we continue to get passed over by numerous DL' s, even in our own state, what can you attribute this to?

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We dont play the game like everyone else. We are the good guys

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

We dont play the game like everyone else. We are the good guys

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If we did try to play the game, we would probably get burned at the stake by the NCAA. We don't know all the ins and outs like some of the other schools that play the game proficiently, or have the legal expertise, experience or history in doing so. Also the OM Boosters/Lawyers would just love to catch us in trying to play the game,and don't think they wouldn't do all within their power to try and ruin our football program.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Again, it baffles me that we aren't a highly thought of program with D-lineman recruits, and even transfers around the land. If OM can still get WR's from other parts of the country to jump on board regardless of scheme, and if we continue to get passed over by numerous DL' s, even in our own state, what can you attribute this to?

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It's a great question. We obviously don't play the game like others, but that just makes it all the more sickening at how corrupt college football is.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Again, it baffles me that we aren't a highly thought of program with D-lineman recruits, and even transfers around the land. If OM can still get WR's from other parts of the country to jump on board regardless of scheme, and if we continue to get passed over by numerous DL' s, even in our own state, what can you attribute this to?

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Who are they passing us up for? If it's LSU and Bama, they produce more nfl dlinemen than us

ETA... surprisingly, since 2010, OM has had more dlinemen drafted than us, 6 to 5

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

If this staff thinks we have a legit shot at landing this kid we will recruit him as hard as anyone will ..

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profound! and if I jumped up, I will have left the ground.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Again, it baffles me that we aren't a highly thought of program with D-lineman recruits, and even transfers around the land. If OM can still get WR's from other parts of the country to jump on board regardless of scheme, and if we continue to get passed over by numerous DL' s, even in our own state, what can you attribute this to?

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It's not just one position group. The perception of our program for what ever reason isn't that good. Take a look at RB. We can currently offer early playing time behind a solid OL and we don't lead for anyone. Marks has as much as told us he isn't coming and we are begging Benson and Dillon to come and even telling them we'll shut down RB recruiting if they commit! It's going to be a tough year on the recruiting trail for Joe and Co.

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

It's not just one position group. The perception of our program for what ever reason isn't that good. Take a look at RB. We can currently offer early playing time behind a solid OL and we don't lead for anyone. Marks has as much as told us he isn't coming and we are begging Benson and Dillon to come and even telling them we'll shut down RB recruiting if they commit! It's going to be a tough year on the recruiting trail for Joe and Co.

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Awesome

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

Marks has as much as told us he isn't coming and we are begging Benson and Dillon to come and even telling them we'll shut down RB recruiting if they commit! It's going to be a tough year on the recruiting trail for Joe and Co.

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Lol you're literally just taking bits and pieces of message board information, creating your own false statements, and acting like you have inside information. Good job!