Sankey?s Letter in the gun law.....

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

No we don't, and to talk of paranoid, Sankey's little threat has you pretty much that way.

It's gamesmanship, and you are reacting like he would hope.

BTW, where do you live?

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In Mississippi in the same very rural county I grew up in. It's as conservative as it gets and I'm very much mainstream here. We were talking about this at Rotary today (yes Rotary, that most conservative of orginazations in rural Mississippi) and we all agreed that guns at ball games is just plain stupid. I expect some of those guys are carriers.


Of course I acted the way he hoped I would. It's not politics, it's just plain old horse sense born from decades of going to ballgames. .

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Kinda pathetic some refuse to use common sense when it comes to the 2nd amendment.

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Utah over a decade.... Common sense. Over 16 states are in the process of allowing concealed carry on campuses. That will be over half the states. V Tech.... mass shooting in 2007 banned them. Nobody could protect themselves because they were banned.

Court after court has ruled that Public colleges can NOT restrict rights.

Common sense is that when you force me to your rules but 1 mad man gets past your rules..... people die in mass! V Tech is the example.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I'm just trying to enjoy a football game. Ya know....one could just stay their ass at home, and sit in the nude watching the game on their 20" tubed Zenith, masturbating (a sin I know...) to all the blued-steel firepower surrounding them....that's also an option right?

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Ever been to a game at Utah? Tx?

The SEC warned, and the House passed it anyway!

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Utah over a decade.... Common sense. Over 16 states are in the process of allowing concealed carry on campuses. That will be over half the states. V Tech.... mass shooting in 2007 banned them. Nobody could protect themselves because they were banned.

Court after court has ruled that Public colleges can NOT restrict rights.

Common sense is that when you force me to your rules but 1 mad man gets past your rules..... people die in mass! V Tech is the example.

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Ballgames are just different. I think it ought to be like it is at the Hump, and that's coming to football venues. If we don't go along, we are out, and that's fact, like it or not.

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Ever been to a game at Utah? Tx?

The SEC warned, and the House passed it anyway!

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And the SEC will act, if it passes.

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Utah over a decade.... Common sense. Over 16 states are in the process of allowing concealed carry on campuses. That will be over half the states. V Tech.... mass shooting in 2007 banned them. Nobody could protect themselves because they were banned.

Court after court has ruled that Public colleges can NOT restrict rights.

Common sense is that when you force me to your rules but 1 mad man gets past your rules..... people die in mass! V Tech is the example.

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When one of the other states that has an SEC school in it allows guns in stadiums Mississippi can follow their lead. We can't be the pace car on this issue though.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

If we don't go along, we are out, and that's fact, like it or not.

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That's not fact. You think Sankey will kick us out but it will never get to that point where he could even make that decision and he doesn't have absolute power in kicking a founding SEC member out anyways. It'll get resolved before then. MSU ain't about to give up SEC money over guns.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

And the SEC will act, if it passes.

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No they do not want the negative feed back. I can tell you now that should they try it they will have a massive blow back, It the SEC.. SOUTH eastern conference. It would likely mean that Shanky would be fired!

There is no way he would remain

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

That's not fact. You think Sankey will kick us out but it will never get to that point where he could even make that decision and he doesn't have absolute power in kicking a founding SEC member out anyways. It'll get resolved before then. MSU ain't about to give up SEC money over guns.

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As I said earlier I agree with you, if we are allowed to make our own decision, Mark Keenum has made that very clear. As a public arm of the State of Mississippi we may not be able to. Sankey speaks for the membership as a whole, not us. I ain't arguing with you dude. I know you don't like me but we are on the same side here, if you can recognize that. Some of the people in this thread have said if it comes to guns or MSU, they choose guns.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Ballgames are just different. I think it ought to be like it is at the Hump, and that's coming to football venues. If we don't go along, we are out, and that's fact, like it or not.

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No they are not. V tech could not protect their students from a mass shooting. They banned guns. Courts will rule in favor of Mississippi.

It's not a fact. What will happen is the people of this state and others will look at it as an over step by an entity. SHANKEY works at the pleasure of the SEC SCHOOLS.. He is NOT an absolute power.

THis isn't a flag issue..... this is a 2nd issue, and he is being seen as a dictator right now in 2 states and he won't touch Ole Miss and MSU.

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Originally Posted by Coach007

No they do not want the negative feed back. I can tell you now that should they try it they will have a massive blow back, It the SEC.. SOUTH eastern conference. It would likely mean that Shanky would be fired!

There is no way he would remain

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Actually it's already happened, Arkansas did what the SEC wanted. The majority of the membership will vote with him on this, and did there. He won't be out. The voters are the university presidents remember. Our own has come out against this bill, and that was before the SEC letter. The UM chancellor has too.

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Originally Posted by Coach007

No they are not. V tech could not protect their students from a mass shooting. They banned guns. Courts will rule in favor of Mississippi.

It's not a fact. What will happen is the people of this state and others will look at it as an over step by an entity. SHANKEY works at the pleasure of the SEC SCHOOLS.. He is NOT an absolute power.

THis isn't a flag issue..... this is a 2nd issue, and he is being seen as a dictator right now in 2 states and he won't touch Ole Miss and MSU.

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They won't rule for us man. That's just delusional. This isn't a legal issue, it's a conference bylaw. The courts have coansistently rulled in favor of the VOLUNTARY organization here. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Actually it's already happened, Arkansas did what the SEC wanted. The majority of the membership will vote with him on this. He won't be out. The voters are the university presidents remember. Our own has come out against this bill, and that was before the SEC letter. The UM chancellor has too.

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And people in Ark are pissed. You keep forgetting the order of things...

1- the people elect politicians
2- Our President and Ole Miss president is hired and paid by WHOM.

If a president can't stand for the rights in the US constitution and the State passes a law backing that up and court after court has ruled against colleges.... he needs to GO!

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

They won't rule for us man. That's just delusional. This isn't a legal issue, it's a conference bylaw. The courts have coansistently rulled in favor of the VOLUNTARY organization here. Sorry.

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What bylaw?

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Originally Posted by Coach007

What bylaw?

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The SEC does not allow firearms in a game except in a official law enforcement capacity.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

The SEC does not allow firearms in a game except in a official law enforcement capacity.

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By law please?

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Originally Posted by Coach007

And people in Ark are pissed. You keep forgetting the order of things...

1- the people elect politicians
2- Our President and Ole Miss president is hired and paid by WHOM.

If a president can't stand for the rights in the US constitution and the State passes a law backing that up and court after court has ruled against colleges.... he needs to GO!

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You keep mistaking the SEC for the government. It's not a government entity. Our president and the Um chancellor would vot against kicking us out obviously. That's 2 out of 14.

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Originally Posted by Coach007

By law please?

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I don't know the number, but. all our security policies are designed to fulfill SEC requirements. That includes no guns. Jeeze this ain't rocket surgery or the bar exam.

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

You keep mistaking the SEC for the government. It's not a government entity. Our president and the Um chancellor would vot against kicking us out obviously. That's 2 out of 14.

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No no. I get it. And gov is involved in who the president of MSU is.


As to them voting us out, they would have to have grounds.

What by law are we breaking?

Here is the PDF of the 2017/18 by laws. Where is it at?


http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2017/0822...d%20Bylaws.pdf


I want to read them

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Originally Posted by Coach007

And people in Ark are pissed. You keep forgetting the order of things...

1- the people elect politicians
2- Our President and Ole Miss president is hired and paid by WHOM.

If a president can't stand for the rights in the US constitution and the State passes a law backing that up and court after court has ruled against colleges.... he needs to GO!

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So you are saying that if Mark Keenum fights to keep concealed carry out of Davis Wade he needs to be fired?