2019 Recruiting Thread

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Originally Posted by StateDawg44

Well you just come across as whiny. Not motivational or whatever you believe it accomplishes.

You acted like a child who had his lollipop taken away upon hearing Brooks is looking to AR. Shit like that happens every single year. Your instant response was that AR must've paid him as if you had evidence and it was factual and then threw childish insults at the forum's lone AR fan while he was just stating a perfectly logical case. It's like you're a tattletale brat but with no one to actually tell it to.

You claimed you are "Completely embarrassed" at how yesterday ended. Rallying troops??? Ha, to do what? What are you expecting to happen from complaining on ED? Your schtick is old.

I'll give you credit with a long post later on about finding the positives though.

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Fair enough. I get emotional in the moment, but can typically put forth a decent opinion late on.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I'd guess it's according to who signs him. Bama probably de in 3-4. Probably dt in our 4-3

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FWIW, Bama signed 6 DL yesterday that are ranked 90 or higher 4 stars.

I think Young can & would certainly play at Bama, but for them he's just another piece, another guy that likely has to wait a few years to really see significant playing time.

At MSU, he, Pickering, Lovett, Crumedy, & maybe Moore can be the dudes on an awesome DL that will rival Bama's & he will likely play early.

Hopefully that is appealing to him.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I'd guess it's according to who signs him. Bama probably de in 3-4. Probably dt in our 4-3

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Yea I was talking about our scheme. He could definitely be a DE in a 3-4.

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Originally Posted by Madisonmd

Don't be surprised if Moore ends up elsewhere (issues!)

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Would you care to elaborate? I thought he was just going to enjoy the process by taking other visits, and that he would most certainly sign with us in February. After all, he has been committed to us for over a year.

Collin Duncan is a CB from Montgomery. Rated 89 overall by 247. It shows we've offered him as well as Kentucky, USCe.

Is this a guy we can look at to replace Brooks? He's rated about the same and is taller than Brooks, but Brooks had slightly better offers. Of course, he's an out of state guy so there's that.

Duncan looks a little like Taveze Calhoun to me. No idea, but him not signing tells me he's looking at a bigger offer, and I'm guessing that's us.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Duncan looks a little like Taveze Calhoun to me. No idea, but him not signing tells me he's looking at a bigger offer, and I'm guessing that's us.

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He has an offer from us and he looks like the next man up.....he's actually a little faster and quicker than Brooks

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

He has an offer from us and he looks like the next man up.....he's actually a little faster and quicker than Brooks

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Then sign his ass up and hope that AU or Bama doesn't offer him

I lurk this site alot and never had anything to add but im seeing alot of misinformation posted so I had to sign up. Without giving too much information I'm very in the know when it comes to Charles and we are good there..So please kill that noise about his "issues".Very disrespectful to the kid. This is a good kid that is enjoying the process. Dont feed into his twitter. He's missing that "love" that some of our other recruits have been getting and he is looking for it. Going from a 5 star to a kid thats not talked about much in the class has to be eating a little bit at him. His upside is amazing and he is gonna be nasty for us. Has some motor issues but he is unblockable when he is inspired. He is the one that got this ball rolling in this class before others bought in. I know for a fact how much it meant to him that State stuck by his side after his injury and he wont forget that. He is a DOG period unless something drastically changes. But trust me more ppl see this message board than you would think. So i would advise against the character assassinations.

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Originally Posted by Dawg4Lyfe

I lurk this site alot and never had anything to add but im seeing alot of misinformation posted so I had to sign up. Without giving too much information I'm very in the know when it comes to Charles and we are good there..So please kill that noise about his "issues".Very disrespectful to the kid. This is a good kid that is enjoying the process. Dont feed into his twitter. He's missing that "love" that some of our other recruits have been getting and he is looking for it. Going from a 5 star to a kid thats not talked about much in the class has to be eating a little bit at him. His upside is amazing and he is gonna be nasty for us. Has some motor issues but he is unblockable when he is inspired. He is the one that got this ball rolling in this class before others bought in. I know for a fact how much it meant to him that State stuck by his side after his injury and he wont forget that. He is a DOG period unless something drastically changes. But trust me more ppl see this message board than you would think. So i would advise against the character assassinations.

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Thank you, well said! Listen up people.

^^It's not just this board talking about issues with Moore though.

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Originally Posted by NCDawg

Would you care to elaborate? I thought he was just going to enjoy the process by taking other visits, and that he would most certainly sign with us in February. After all, he has been committed to us for over a year.

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I think ppl get Moore & Russel mixed up. Russell was the one who some said might be an OM "flipmas" candidate. I was quite relieved when his signature came in. Moore has always been solid w/ us. Of course the Sharts missed on a bunch yesterday so there'll be extra "incentive" to make a splash.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

I think ppl get Moore & Russel mixed up. Russell was the one who some said might be an OM "flipmas" candidate. I was quite relieved when his signature came in. Moore has always been solid w/ us. Of course the Sharts missed on a bunch yesterday so there'll be extra "incentive" to make a splash.

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Yep they're going to come after Moore and Pickering hard. Pickering ain't going there so they're wasting time with him, but Moore might listen to them if they throw enough at him. I still think Moore sticks with us. He's right down the road from me, and I know some of his coaches and teammates, and they say he's just enjoying this process. Like one of the other posters said, he won't forget that we stuck with him through his injury. He's a 5 star talent, and will be next in line of the great DL to come through here. Simmons declaring early is also good from a recruiting standpoint as it shows we just put another guy in the NFL.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

I think ppl get Moore & Russel mixed up. Russell was the one who some said might be an OM "flipmas" candidate. I was quite relieved when his signature came in. Moore has always been solid w/ us. Of course the Sharts missed on a bunch yesterday so there'll be extra "incentive" to make a splash.

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No ppl must be getting Pickering and Moore mixed up. Pickering is the solid one. Moore has been a slippery slope. I hope we get him but he has been throwing out mixed signals. Everyone says the typical company line " Oh he just likes attention let him enjoy the process" It is more to it than that.

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

I think ppl get Moore & Russel mixed up. Russell was the one who some said might be an OM "flipmas" candidate. I was quite relieved when his signature came in. Moore has always been solid w/ us. Of course the Sharts missed on a bunch yesterday so there'll be extra "incentive" to make a splash.

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& De'Monte was never flipping either. People were so concerned about Shay Hodge but didn't realize Otis Ridley & Tommy Kelly were his mentors.

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Originally Posted by Dawg4Lyfe

I lurk this site alot and never had anything to add but im seeing alot of misinformation posted so I had to sign up. Without giving too much information I'm very in the know when it comes to Charles and we are good there..So please kill that noise about his "issues".Very disrespectful to the kid. This is a good kid that is enjoying the process. Dont feed into his twitter. He's missing that "love" that some of our other recruits have been getting and he is looking for it. Going from a 5 star to a kid thats not talked about much in the class has to be eating a little bit at him. His upside is amazing and he is gonna be nasty for us. Has some motor issues but he is unblockable when he is inspired. He is the one that got this ball rolling in this class before others bought in. I know for a fact how much it meant to him that State stuck by his side after his injury and he wont forget that. He is a DOG period unless something drastically changes. But trust me more ppl see this message board than you would think. So i would advise against the character assassinations.

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Out standing post & I agree completely. However, I don't tweet recruits, so how can I show love?

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Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs

It is more to it than that.

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No, no it isn't.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

I agree unless something crazy happens at OM.

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Its going to be a signing day decision IMO. If they make the wrong OC hire he is coming to State 100 percent

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Originally Posted by Dawg4Lyfe

I lurk this site alot and never had anything to add but im seeing alot of misinformation posted so I had to sign up. Without giving too much information I'm very in the know when it comes to Charles and we are good there..So please kill that noise about his "issues".Very disrespectful to the kid. This is a good kid that is enjoying the process. Dont feed into his twitter. He's missing that "love" that some of our other recruits have been getting and he is looking for it. Going from a 5 star to a kid thats not talked about much in the class has to be eating a little bit at him. His upside is amazing and he is gonna be nasty for us. Has some motor issues but he is unblockable when he is inspired. He is the one that got this ball rolling in this class before others bought in. I know for a fact how much it meant to him that State stuck by his side after his injury and he wont forget that. He is a DOG period unless something drastically changes. But trust me more ppl see this message board than you would think. So i would advise against the character assassinations.

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This sounds about like many saying we wouldnt get Rogers in 2020 because of his family. If you dont know what you're talking about, dont post it. This place would be a lot better with people not just popping off for message board ego. Kids and their families see it

Good post.

If the posters who are full of crap knew just how obvious it is that they’re talking out of their butts, they’d...well.. they’d probably still talk out of their butts.

I really haven't seen people downing Moore. I know one State media person does but other than him, I haven't really seen it.

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Originally Posted by hailmari

If the posters who are full of crap knew just how obvious it is that they?re talking out of their butts, they?d...well.. they?d probably still talk out of their butts.

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Judging by how heated and nasty some of those types get when they're called out, it seems like a case of repeating one's own bullshit so much that they start to actually believe it.

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Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs

No ppl must be getting Pickering and Moore mixed up. Pickering is the solid one. Moore has been a slippery slope. I hope we get him but he has been throwing out mixed signals. Everyone says the typical company line " Oh he just likes attention let him enjoy the process" It is more to it than that.

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Its really not more to it. If you've been to Louisville you will know why somebody would want to enjoy the process as much as they can and see the country lol.. I will admit that Auburn is not giving up though. But from Dennis Thames (who didnt pan out) to Dontae Jones to Charles..All the recent major talent there.. Its a good relationship in Louisville with State. And it needs to remain that way cause its more heat coming in the next 4 years. Pete being on this staff def is a plus also

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Originally Posted by msu15

No, no it isn't.

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hahahahahahahaha

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

FWIW, Bama signed 6 DL yesterday that are ranked 90 or higher 4 stars.

I think Young can & would certainly play at Bama, but for them he's just another piece, another guy that likely has to wait a few years to really see significant playing time.


At MSU, he, Pickering, Lovett, Crumedy, & maybe Moore can be the dudes on an awesome DL that will rival Bama's & he will likely play early.

Hopefully that is appealing to him.

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Those seem like contradictory statements...

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Originally Posted by TUSK

Those seem like contradictory statements...

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Tusk, I have to agree with you on this.... too obvious... lol

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Originally Posted by TUSK

Those seem like contradictory statements...

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All the guys I listed are young. He would have a chance to potentially play as a freshman. That was my point.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Tusk, I have to agree with you on this.... too obvious... lol

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

All the guys I listed are young. He would have a chance to potentially play as a freshman. That was my point.

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I can dig that... I just meant it seemed contradictory to say Young could play day 1 on an MSU D line that would rival a Bammer DL that he wouldn't be good enough to play on for a year or two... that's all....

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Originally Posted by TUSK

I can dig that... I just meant it seemed contradictory to say Young could play day 1 on an MSU D line that would rival a Bammer DL that he wouldn't be good enough to play on for a year or two... that's all....

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Nice compliment here. We should be called DL U. We produce productive All pro DL.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Nice compliment here. We should be called DL U. We produce productive All pro DL.

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Y'all def have turned out a few good 'uns... no doubt...

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Originally Posted by TUSK

I can dig that... I just meant it seemed contradictory to say Young could play day 1 on an MSU D line that would rival a Bammer DL that he wouldn't be good enough to play on for a year or two... that's all....

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Sorry, I mean they could grow into that type of line together

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Sorry, I mean they could grow into that type of line together

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ahhhhh, that makes sense, then... I misunderstood ya!

Nathan Pickering, Charles Moore and Byron Young belong at MSU. Come represent your turf at the DL factory.

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

Come represent your turf at the DL factory.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

We should be called DL U.

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Easy there, Turbos.... Let's not get all cray cray:rolleyes:....

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Originally Posted by TUSK

Easy there, Turbos.... Let's not get all cray cray:rolleyes:....

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We've got two of the top 5 D tackles in n the NFL in Cox and Jones. Bama doesn't have anyone in the league producing like either of those guys. We're about to add two more elite guys in Sweat and Simmons. Bama produces NFL safeties. We produce DL

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

We've got two of the top 5 D tackles in n the NFL in Cox and Jones. Bama doesn't have anyone in the league producing like either of those guys. We're about to add two more elite guys in Sweat and Simmons. Bama produces NFL safeties. We produce DL

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Since 2010, Bama has had 15 dlinemen drafted

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Since 2010, Bama has had 15 dlinemen drafted

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How many All Pro? How many have broken NFL records? How many are paid more than Fletcher Cox?

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

How many All Pro? How many have broken NFL records? How many are paid more than Fletcher Cox?

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All pros since 2010: Bama 2 (Dareus both times), state 4 (cox all 4 times)

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Originally Posted by msstate7

All pros since 2010: Bama 2 (Dareus both times), state 4 (cox all 4 times)

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So which team is producing better NFL talent? We have the best corner in the NFL, 2nd best DT, Jones was a pro bowl snub, McKinney is one of the best in the game.