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08-02-2018, 03:40 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

Gray & Emery are still top of the list as is Ealy. Ronald Thompkins right below them & there are a couple other guys without offers being monitored. We're not going to just start reaching on guys in July/August because the best RB in the country commits elsewhere. Eric Gray is still being receptive to our recruiting & is the top guy outside of Emery. We have 1 of the top RB Coach recruiters in the country. We're not just going to settle because we didn't get THE BEST RB IN THE COUNTRY. We move on to #2 which is Gray not #6 or 7. People complained about Mullen recruiting for years but offering Clark now would be a classic Mullen/Knox lazy move.

Good deal. I forgot about Thompkins. Thanks
08-02-2018, 03:42 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

He's had 2 major injuries & he's not a HR threat like Huff likes. Could things change after another full season of work? Sure but Huff has a style & Dreke isn't really that type.

So does not being a HR threat gonna severely limit Williams' carries this season?
08-02-2018, 04:11 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So does not being a HR threat gonna severely limit Williams' carries this season?

Probably depends on how Kylin does.

If Kylin is legit, then "YEAH"
08-02-2018, 05:32 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Probably depends on how Kylin does.

If Kylin is legit, then "YEAH"

I think this is the correct answer. Until Kylin becomes a complete RB Aeris is the starter. When Kylin becomes a complete RB it's his job.
08-02-2018, 06:11 PM
Turfdawg67

Was looking for an old post of mine and saw a tread titled "What's wrong with our 2016 recruiting?" Thought it'd be fun to reminisce and found this gem...

https://s8.postimg.cc/s38vjgmwl/6115...2_D332_E88.png

Not a knock on IYOK, but poor ole mic thought we'd get 6-7 off that list!
08-02-2018, 06:25 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Was looking for an old post of mine and saw a tread titled "What's wrong with our 2016 recruiting?" Thought it'd be fun to reminisce and found this gem...

https://s8.postimg.cc/s38vjgmwl/6115...2_D332_E88.png

Not a knock on IYOK, but poor ole mic thought we'd get 6-7 off that list!

Seeing that makes me angry at the last staff. Sure, AJ was gonna do what he was gonna do, but Lashley, Knott, and Davis could've been our's. Davis is the only one who panned out at Bama
08-02-2018, 10:02 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew

I think this is the correct answer. Until Kylin becomes a complete RB Aeris is the starter. When Kylin becomes a complete RB it's his job.

Hill is already more explosive and it sounds to me like we may use Hill some in the slot at WR and also motion him back into the backfield like Moorhead did with Barkley.
08-02-2018, 10:27 PM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Hill is already more explosive and it sounds to me like we may use Hill some in the slot at WR and also motion him back into the backfield like Moorhead did with Barkley.

I doubt we use him in the slot at WR but JoeMo does empty the backfield plenty & motion the RB in & out of the backfield.
08-02-2018, 10:31 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Was looking for an old post of mine and saw a tread titled "What's wrong with our 2016 recruiting?" Thought it'd be fun to reminisce and found this gem...

https://s8.postimg.cc/s38vjgmwl/6115...2_D332_E88.png

Not a knock on IYOK, but poor ole mic thought we'd get 6-7 off that list!

I know I melted over some on that list. Crazy thing is we still have perhaps the most talented state team this year without them. Sure it would be nice to add some, but we got a damn good team anyway
08-02-2018, 10:59 PM
1bigdawg

Raekwon Davis is not a DL. I know this because Hevesy said he was much more cut out for OL and would not succeed in the SEC as a DL.**
08-02-2018, 11:13 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by 1bigdawg

Raekwon Davis is not a DL. I know this because Hevesy said he was much more cut out for OL and would not succeed in the SEC as a DL.**

What a dumbass!! Glad his no cruitin self is gone!!
08-02-2018, 11:24 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by 1bigdawg

Raekwon Davis is not a DL. I know this because Hevesy said he was much more cut out for OL and would not succeed in the SEC as a DL.**

What was that DL's name from JUCO that we moved to LT after one year? I'm thinking 2011 or 12? He was like 6'8", but I don't remember that transition going especially well.
08-03-2018, 12:03 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

What was that DL's name from JUCO that we moved to LT after one year? I'm thinking 2011 or 12? He was like 6'8", but I don't remember that transition going especially well.

James Carmon.
08-03-2018, 12:04 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

What a dumbass!! Glad his no cruitin self is gone!!

Amen. It's one thing to be a douchebag. It's another level when you add in lazy and incompetent.
08-03-2018, 03:12 AM
sandwolf

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

It's no slam dunk. You have to look at the distance between him and his family.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

In an interview, he said distance from home was no factor, but you know how that goes

IYOK can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I believe his parents plan to move to wherever he goes to school.
08-03-2018, 05:51 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Hill is already more explosive and it sounds to me like we may use Hill some in the slot at WR and also motion him back into the backfield like Moorhead did with Barkley.

Folks keep saying this and I ain't for sure saying it ain't so but ... maybe my memory is not too good here but I don't remember Hill breaking off a long run last year. Looking at stats, his long was 30 yds (with many less carries tho). Williams' long was 59. Avg yards Hill - 5.0, Aeris 4.7. Aeris was in most of time against all 1st team Ds. He wore Bama out some. How many RBs did Mullen have that ran like that against Bama?

Aeris reminds me just a tad of Emmitt Smith the way he runs. Emmit didn't break long runs like Walker, Bo, or Dupree. Didn't have that type of speed. But he found the hole and gained 5 or 6 when it didn't appear much of a hole was there. Not saying Aeris is in same class as Emmitt, but he does remind me a tad of him.

Won't be long into the season when Fitz has a couple of bad throws, everyone will be hollering for Keytaon.
08-03-2018, 06:45 AM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Folks keep saying this and I ain't for sure saying it ain't so but ... maybe my memory is not too good here but I don't remember Hill breaking off a long run last year. Looking at stats, his long was 30 yds (with many less carries tho). Williams' long was 59. Avg yards Hill - 5.0, Aeris 4.7. Aeris was in most of time against all 1st team Ds. He wore Bama out some. How many RBs did Mullen have that ran like that against Bama?

Aeris reminds me just a tad of Emmitt Smith the way he runs. Emmit didn't break long runs like Walker, Bo, or Dupree. Didn't have that type of speed. But he found the hole and gained 5 or 6 when it didn't appear much of a hole was there. Not saying Aeris is in same class as Emmitt, but he does remind me a tad of him.

Won't be long into the season when Fitz has a couple of bad throws, everyone will be hollering for Keytaon.

The coach whose watching him daily said it, case closed. It's easy to see that Hill is faster, quicker, and more athletic with the ball than Williams.
08-03-2018, 06:57 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

The coach whose watching him daily said it, case closed. It's easy to see that Hill is faster, quicker, and more athletic with the ball than Williams.

I have no doubts. Dawgday never said differently. Aeris doesn't beat you with his athletism. He's now rushed for over 2,000 right at 5 yds/carry. I could certainly be wrong, but I don't see aeris bowing out of our starting rb spot gracefully. I expect a big year from him and Kylin. I still expect aeris to get the bulk of the carries

ETA... there should be plenty of carries for each and even Gibson. Georgia got 2 guys 150+ carries last season and 3 80+ carries. I don't expect this many carries, but I can see both and fitz go over 120
08-03-2018, 08:49 AM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Folks keep saying this and I ain't for sure saying it ain't so but ... maybe my memory is not too good here but I don't remember Hill breaking off a long run last year. Looking at stats, his long was 30 yds (with many less carries tho). Williams' long was 59. Avg yards Hill - 5.0, Aeris 4.7. Aeris was in most of time against all 1st team Ds. He wore Bama out some. How many RBs did Mullen have that ran like that against Bama?

I'm a big Aeris fan, but I think those numbers are less representative of athleticism and moreso that Hill sometimes made the wrong cut that cost a yard to 2. Aeris almost never makes any mistakes, so his athleticism is better utilized. Hill did run a lot against already broken Ds, but sometimes he was running behind our 2nd string OL too. When we put him in real gametimes, all we did was hand it to him 3 straight plays then pull him because Mullen didn't trust his blocking. Defenses knew he was going to run the second they saw him enter.

Not that it matter,s because the eye test makes it clear that Hill is the better athlete. Better burst, quicker to change directions, he chops his feet faster... his potential is higher. Now we has to know the playbook, be able to block, run routes and have good hands, and know when to take what the D gives him. He's pretty good on some of these but has room for improvement
08-03-2018, 09:01 AM
Ifyouonlyknew

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Originally Posted by sandwolf

IYOK can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I believe his parents plan to move to wherever he goes to school.

That's correct

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