Must hve taken a pretty penny. But I can't blame them for supporting a program that just won a nattyQuote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
Printable View
Must hve taken a pretty penny. But I can't blame them for supporting a program that just won a nattyQuote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
Yeskie was Johnson's PC at ArizonaQuote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
I get the connection, but Yeski made 300k at Zona and was the "associate head coach" at A&M and no doubt made more than that. I can't imagine he left for LSU without a raiseQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I’ve seen it mentioned that Yeski didn’t really like Johnson but that could be total BS, I have no idea. I wonder why Yeski didn’t go to lsu with Johnson initially, unless he was just getting a better deal from A&M at the time.
I think I have also seen it mentioned that Yeski isn’t happy at A&M for whatever reason, which looks to be a legitimate rumor.
Yeski wanted out of A&M. Hooked back up with Johnson because LSU will buy him pitchers (simple version). He butted heads with Johnson at Zona because they wouldn't get him pitchers and just loaded up on bats. I'd guess he's making a little more than at A&M. Wes was making close to $400K.
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegebase...itching_coach/Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
an A&M fan listed 5 pitchers that got worse from '22 to '23. Was it a bad year for Yeski, or a Fox situation? Probably the first. But I'd rather have Parker honestly.
It would be hard to be happy in college station unless you are an Aggie at heart. That fan base is weird and cultish and they do not grow on you at all...trust me, I live here.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlSwearengen
No that WF season is over, does TAM make a run at Muscara and the East German pitching lady?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Not every pitcher is going to get better every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
I'm just thankful that LSU didn't get Muscara. Word on the street is he wants to be a head coach somewhere so he may be just biding his time.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Agreed. That's why I don't agree with C34 that our Fr from last year will develop into at least 2 aolid starters next year. That a big ask.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
But in A&M's case it's not an issue of "some players dint take a step forward", but "almost every returning pitcher got significantly worse". Which IS rare for a non Fox coached Staff. But Yeski has a long track record so it was probably just a fluke
The Twins were paying him that and LSU doubled it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
A&M reeled in a hell of a 3b per Kendall Rogers. Hit like .300 something with 24 homers and was MAAC player of the year last year…
Yet we sit on our hands… I have no clue what is going on, but we have literally got ONE kid. ONE!!!! I don’t give a shit about the super secret commits. That’s bullshit. I won’t believe it until I see it at this point…
His base pay was $380K at LSUQuote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
We aren't sitting on our hands. But, Lemonis is making a huge mistake shutting down everything to the media though. I want to say more but I'll wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
TCU is killing the portal - They have two massive gets - Burns and now Payton Tolle
Golden Spikes and Orelud candidates
I saw something yesterday on twitter that said Burns was staying at Tenn. It said lsu and vandy offered him 6 figures but a Tenn booster matched it and he was staying.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
I still haven’t seen that again, so it might be misinformation.
and they may not- but I think they have too much talent not to develop. Between Simmons, Loftin, Loo, and Holcombe's country ass- we should have at least 2 SEC SP's this SpringQuote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
We only need two out of the seven to take a step forward. That's not a big ask at all. Regardless we're not just relying on them taking a step forward. We have JUCO pitchers, guys from the portal, people coming back from Injuries, and then we may get some guys back from the draft for their senior year.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
Again- I don't think our fans can fathom how bad Foxhall was at multiple things. It's going to become very apparent next year though.
Right now, from the outside looking in, we appear to be failing at an epic level with the transfer portal. Only silver lining I can possibly see at this point is that we are banking NIL to spend when the next staff takes over next June. I hope I eat crow later, and I will gladly take seconds with that meal but it appears that we have totaled the Ferrari and insurance isn't going to cover it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Randolph Dupree
Let’s think about this…..what do we have, that fans have seen, to be excited about. I’d love to be proven wrong. We look like a train wreck though.
Prove us wrong. Show us. We are all in, just show us that you can get it done Coach.
Easy now. Nothing is ever as good or as bad as reported. We've got position players coming. Pitchers? Ehhh.
The discouraging part about it is the best players going into next year regardless of position were also on this years team that failed miserably. We will not be increasing in talent other than a couple of freshman that have zero college experience. On paper, they don't show to be any better. That means some players are gonna have to make a big jump with experience and so all our hope lies with coaching 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
Question: If you were a top portal guy would you go to a program that's been abysmal the last two seasons and has a coach that's going to lose his job if this season is bad? We can pay but that's only going to get you so far. The Lemon is getting squeezed right now. His hopes basically ride on two portal dreams and young guys killing it.
You have to put some more context with it. I mean we are two years away from winning it all, we do have NIL, we do have the best stadium and largest crowds. Our football staff is doing more with a much more average program.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
What do you mean by two portal dreams??
Players don't care about attendance and what happened 3 years ago from their next season. They're looking to win big and maximizing the pro draft. We aren't doing a ton of either. How many people think we've got a bunch of secret commits? I don't. I think we're in it for a couple guys but that's about it. If we don't pull Montgomery and Holman, Lemons is dead. There's nothing big in the portal right now. Less than two weeks left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
I actually have some confidence that we will look a lot better on the mound this year even with the same personnel. I've said it on here before but I think Fox just mailed it in. Don't know why but I'm not sure our guys were getting any good development. My issue with the transfer portal is, every team that is in it to win it is going out and upgrading as many positions as they can. So while we do have some very nice pieces returning and a nice recruiting class coming, that's not enough to get ahead in the transfer portal environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
Again I hope like hell to be eating crow next June but at the moment this doesn't look good.
This👆 Players know they are going to play in front of hundreds in the Minors. Playing in front of 2500 in a winning team in college is more valuable than playing in front of 10,000 on a losing team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Keenum and Selmon have signed us up for a 3 year rebuild after Lemonis winning a NC with someone else?s recruits.
You don?t keep commitments secret when your fan base is starving for good news. That is like missing a Regional 2 straight years and telling your fans they can kick rocks and hit the road if they don?t like it.
Bringing in a new head coach would have given the fan base a reason for excitement but instead they kept the loser and he can?t even give the fans a Millicent of four news! Pitiful really. He is sticking it to us worse than Moorhead?s kick rocks statement!
Lemon is focused on building a team for next year. He dont care if you are over there whining because you havent heard anything yet. All the chairback tickets are sold for next season. All the tailgating areas are sold for next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
We'll hear about transfers when the transfers are ready to announce
This will move the needle or probably not.
Mississippi State has picked up JUCO RHP Gavin Black from NW Florida State
Pitched 36 innings, 43 K?s and 24 BB with an ERA of 4.00
Just saw this on twitter. Juco transfer, i guess. Throws pretty hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Big arm. Watch his film and think of Colby White. Need to hope the draft doesn't hurt us with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
97 in Juco is a good grab. Top shelf Juco too. Same Juco as DeLucia I believe.
Seems to be the same philosophy all the other Top programs are taking too. Not making any portal commitments known to their fans. Not building confidence that they are keeping their program at the top. Oh wait! That is NOT what the other programs are doing. They are cherry picking the best available. While our coach is keeping secrets about his fantastic efforts to bring State from 13th to 12th next year. But hey, that will get the Dogs in Hoover. Carry on with your acceptance of the Status Quo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
A lot of these portal guys are coming for one season so I'm not sure why Lemonis's long term future matters that much to most of them. If we get Montgomery and Holman they're going in the draft next year regardless of what happens to MSU next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Lemo and everyone associated with MSU baseball knows the rest of this month is critical. There really isn't much else that can be said. We all know the areas that we need immediate help. The Dude is sold out regardless
Kendall Rogers seems to think Holman is going to FloridaQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
The Tommy Whites of the world care. And that's what we need. Getting a couple younger guys that can give you a couple years to stabilize things some til your HS recruits are ready would be nice. But Lemons has to save his job. We've gotten a Juco pitcher so far. Get Holman and Montgomery and things are good next year. But looking to the future, it looks pretty rough without some guys showing up. We've already seen a some decommits and some guys pushed out of the class. You can't completely get away from HS talent and rely on the portal every season. That's why we're here now. All the bad HS recruits we signed and gave the boot and not developing kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Hypothetically, you can't announce a commit that hasn't entered the portal yet.
It really doesn't what is or isn't publicly announced right now or if fans are happy or not right now. Only thing that really matters in the end for Lemonis is are the fans happy or not at the end of next season. We all know he's got one last season to get this program back into the postseason or he is packing his bags.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho