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He found his best from Louisiana. But those days are over with. Now with the NIL you have to go scout G5 and Div II players and see which of those might be able to compete in the SEC and maybe 25% of them will be able to. And I bet Mullen could find them and more importantly develop them/Quote:
Originally Posted by LC Dawg
Yeah, he's 8-2 at unlv, but we better off without him according to this boardQuote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
I think he is a really great offensive mind. He is still learning how to be a HC. That will come with time. We improved from 2 to 5 wins. That is a solid improvement. Like I said, he is still learning some things about being a HC and that pisses people off. However, you can see the improvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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The improvement is off the charts
He is not coming back. A big reason he is at UNLV is Bishop Gorman. He is not coming back to Starkville so Cannon can go back to Starkville Academy. Canon being able to go to Bishop Gorman was a big reason he accepted that job.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He will not be at Miz next season. Definitely going to he highest bidder.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Good news is no one in the Bryan Building gives a crap what you think. They would have fired Chris Jans in January of 2022 if they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We hire coaches that we know are going to learn on the job and then our fans get pissed off when they're learning on the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Arnold is a dawg! - you!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
You're an idiot, and you always have been
He can go learn to be a head coach on someone else's dime. This is the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
He got a better offer. That happens. We dodged a bullet. Just like we dodged a bullet by not firing Chris Jans.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And who would you suggest we hire? I am being serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Sumrall? Auburn
Chesney? UCLA
Golesh? Same offense and will not take it if we fire Lebby
Silverfield? Arkansas
I mean you want to hire Gruden?
And you want to bring back a coach that never could finish the job. Figures. F u c k you!Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The difference in me and you is I will admit when I was wrong. I was wrong on Jans, and I've said it over and over. Lebby is trash, and you can't admit it. He's garbageQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
No they get pissed off because we do not run the exact play they want to run while they scream at the tv. And then they threaten to cancel their $5/month donation to the SEF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I don?t know.....Mullen did that for a couple of years if memory serves me.......sending a 165 pound _____ up the middle when he had a stud waiting to go......Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
I don't know if it would work but Gruden would bring good attention to MSU. More than Leach did probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
He is learning on the job. I also never said he would succeed here. I actually have said the opposite a few times. I am in wait and see mode and have been for a while. I will stay in that mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Belichick 2.0 except worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
... I have posted a list of 16 names many times, and no, I didn't put Gruden on there.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
If you still can't decide whether or not Lebby sucks, what would it take?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
That was 2015, and we finished 9-4Quote:
Originally Posted by 1eyedog
All 16 names will not come here if you fire Lebby after improving. And our fans can think what they want in terms of improvement. Other coaches are not as emotional. It is black and white. We were god awful last year and we have shown a ton of improvement this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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Improvement
Yeah... but I think Gruden cares and wants to put his energy into something we might go down in flames but it would be entertaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
The team has regressed during SEC play.
These dudes will literally suck Lebby off rather than face realityQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
The more Shapen plays the worse we look. Funny how that worksQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Trending down. We are currently trending up. 2 wins to 5 wins is improvement. Actually having a P4 roster is improvement. Tonight was a disappointment and it sucked. I am extremely pissed. But I am also not going to be reactionary and say that Herbert Davis could run this program better than Lebby, and I respect Herbert a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
So as long as it is entertaining you are ok with sucking? Our fan base ladies and gentlemen….good lord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverick91
Absolutely could be. At least Gruden has some college coaching experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Bullѕhit.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
They said no one would come here if we fired Croom, but then we hired Mullen, one of the top coordinators in the country.
They said no one would come here if we fired Moorhead, but then we hired Leach, poached from a Power Five school and a top 10 national head coach.
They said no one would come here if we fired Lemonis, but then we hired O'Connor, poached from a Power Four school and a top 5 national head coach.
So if Lebby had gone 4-8 last year instead of 2-10, would you be higher or lower on him?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I would be a lot higher on him, but apparently you wouldn't be because we wouldn't have the "improvement" ??
This dude will defend Lebby's garbage with the last breath in his lungsQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Correct. I would expect 6 wins if we went 4-8 last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
We could have gotten him out of high school. He has D1 athlete in his genes and I know one former coach of his family members that pushed our coaches to take him. The knock on Ahmad was that he was not big or fast enough. He is currently a little bit bigger but no faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I had this same mindset before tonight. Tonight really, really showed he isn't cut out to be a HC. Tonight was an embarrassment to the fans and the University. And then I think about our other losses this season. Coaching has killed us. It would be different if Lebby was progressing but I see him regressing instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
1. We gave Croom five years. You're giving Lebby TWO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
2. We had plenty of scandals we could point to with Moorhead. Tutorgate, Shrader/Gay fight. Coaches understand if you fire someone because of that. Not for doubling the teams win total. If Lebby has a scandal then that changes things too.
3. We gave Lemonis four seasons after he won a NC. We wouldn't have gotten anyone if we fired him before that. So, again see point one.
That's absolutely wild. "I am happy with 7-16 but would be less happy with 9-14."Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve