Lots of chatter so some may need to brace themselves

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Why in the hell he said Marcus Thames might be on staff is beyond me. Good grief.

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I thought that was a bit odd.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I thought that was a bit odd.

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He got a rumor and ran with it and it's just beyond stupid

Things seem to be picking up but not sure that's a good thing. This thing is teetering pretty hard now and it could go in a few directions, & a couple wouldn't be good. Better buckle up!

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Things seem to be picking up but not sure that's a good thing

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They are picking up in the wrong direction in relation to O'Conner.

Fitzgerald has people reaching out almost every day to people within the program and boosters lobbying for him.

Skip Johnson will be a tough pull although people want to make the Selmon connection. And we could do a lot worse than a guy that is regarded as the best pitching coach in the country.

Erik Bakich is the quiet name, which tells me there's smoke there. He will not directly talk until Clemson is done, but his reps have been in contact.

Wasikowski is still trying to get his name in the mix. There's a reason all the writers add him on the hot boards, he is asking them to.

Pollard wants it and if it falls to him he's still a good hire.

Walter would probably take it, but we wouldn't get Muscara and that's really the only reason you'd hire Walter.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

They are picking up in the wrong direction in relation to O'Conner.

Fitzgerald has people reaching out almost every day to people within the program and boosters lobbying for him.

Skip Johnson will be a tough pull although people want to make the Selmon connection. And we could do a lot worse than a guy that is regarded as the best pitching coach in the country.

Erik Bakich is the quiet name, which tells me there's smoke there. He will not directly talk until Clemson is done, but his reps have been in contact.

Wasikowski is still trying to get his name in the mix. There's a reason all the writers add him on the hot boards, he is asking them to.

Pollard wants it and if it falls to him he's still a good hire.

Walter would probably take it, but we wouldn't get Muscara and that's really the only reason you'd hire Walter.

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Walter without Muscara would be close to the worst possible hire.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Walter without Muscara would be close to the worst possible hire.

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I do not disagree one bit. Fortunately I think Pollard is kind of the emergency eject candidate. And that's a pretty dang good failsafe candidate.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I do not disagree one bit. Fortunately I think Pollard is kind of the emergency eject candidate. And that's a pretty dang good failsafe candidate.

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Pollard is arguably the best coach on this list. I don't buy it bc he already turned down A&M and Miami. I think he's happy in North Carolina.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Pollard is arguably the best coach on this list. I don't buy it bc he already turned down A&M and Miami. I think he's happy in North Carolina.

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Like I have been saying for a while, Rev Share has changed everything. Programs like Duke are going to be giving even less to baseball now. And you also have to remember that you can now fully fund and scholarship baseball.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Pollard is arguably the best coach on this list. I don't buy it bc he already turned down A&M and Miami. I think he's happy in North Carolina.

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We have some very good candidates, interesting search and to get paid you send out rumors. A few agents are working so there will be lots of rumors this week, pretty sure by this time next week we may know.

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Originally Posted by basedog

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We have some very good candidates, interesting search and to get paid you send out rumors. A few agents are working so there will be lots of rumors this week, pretty sure by this time next week we may know.

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Agree, 8 to 10 days.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Agree, 8 to 10 days.

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You may agree or not, one thing about Msu Baseball, whoever we hire will have their best job ever as a HC. We have what is needed to be good once again, as JWS once said "that's a plus"!

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Originally Posted by basedog

You may agree or not, one thing about Msu Baseball, whoever we hire will have their best job ever as a HC. We have what is needed to be good once again, as JWS once said "that's a plus"!

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I absolutely agree, we are set up from a funding stand point now better than we ever have been, all that is left is to hire the right guy to lead things.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I do not disagree one bit. Fortunately I think Pollard is kind of the emergency eject candidate. And that's a pretty dang good failsafe candidate.

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Honestly, if you told me that when we let Lemonis go we would get Pollard, I am ecstatic about it. O'Connor possibility shouldn't dampen that enthusiasm but it does for people that are following it.

Pollard has done a lot with very little and the guy kicks ass at recruiting / player development.

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Originally Posted by basedog

You may agree or not, one thing about Msu Baseball, whoever we hire will have their best job ever as a HC. We have what is needed to be good once again, as JWS once said "that's a plus"!

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If all the rumors about funding are true, we are setting up to be a top 5 job and maybe only behind Texas, LSU, and UF in the SEC.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Like I have been saying for a while, Rev Share has changed everything. Programs like Duke are going to be giving even less to baseball now. And you also have to remember that you can now fully fund and scholarship baseball.

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That makes Duke more attractive. Scholarship is valued at 92K per year. The Iron Duke's collective will always take care of the basketball team- rev share or not.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

Honestly, if you told me that when we let Lemonis go we would get Pollard, I am ecstatic about it. O'Connor possibility shouldn't dampen that enthusiasm but it does for people that are following it.

Pollard has done a lot with very little and the guy kicks ass at recruiting / player development.

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Good points, there are several good candidates, we should not be fooled by one choice if BOC stays.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

If all the rumors about funding are true, we are setting up to be a top 5 job and maybe only behind Texas, LSU, and UF in the SEC.

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I feel we have always been a top 5-8 job. A guy off the street can get us to a regional.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

If all the rumors about funding are true, we are setting up to be a top 5 job and maybe only behind Texas, LSU, and UF in the SEC.

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Our NIL baseball money is in the middle of those 3 you listed, not in the back.

BOC was more a pipe dream coach, but I do not see him being a realistic hire. He has been at UVA for a long time and I see him retiring there as long as UVA gives him what he is asking. His agents might be putting his name out there for a pay raise or more NIL, but I ultimately see him staying at UVA. I see Pollard as the much more realistic hire if we get a coach from the ACC. Skip Johnson might come depending on what we promise him, but not sure he will leave OU for State. I think we end up with Pollard, Coggin or Fitzgerald

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

BOC was more a pipe dream coach, but I do not see him being a realistic hire. He has been at UVA for a long time and I see him retiring there as long as UVA gives him what he is asking. His agents might be putting his name out there for a pay raise or more NIL, but I ultimately see him staying at UVA. I see Pollard as the much more realistic hire if we get a coach from the ACC. Skip Johnson might come depending on what we promise him, but not sure he will leave OU for State. I think we end up with Pollard, Coggin or Fitzgerald

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I would be happy with either of those 3.
Giving any of those guys top 5 money and a program, along with their fire to win would be the recipe we really need. Actually Fitz and Coggin bring the fire for that

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Originally Posted by Santiago

I would be happy with either of those 3.
Giving any of those guys top 5 money and a program, along with their fire to win would be the recipe we really need. Actually Fitz and Coggin bring the fire for that

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Just my guess at what our potential list looks like at this moment:

1. Erik Bakich
2. Dan Fitzgerald
3. Skip Johnson
4. Chris Pollard
5. Will Coggin


Unless he is putting on the greatest smoke screen of all time, the job doesn't get past Fitzgerald. He has had people calling on his behalf for almost a month now. I do think we view him higher than Skip due to his recruiting success and his overachieving at Kansas. I think we are making a mistake not talking to Wasikowski, but it seems that is the direction we are going. I personally would value him a bit over Fitzgerald but Fitzgerald has southern recruiting ties and SEC experience at a place like us since he was an asst at LSU.

Not too completely get lost on a different tangent, but it is incredible how the list of potential coaches has changed in a year. If this was last year, Justin Haire would be candidate 1A, 1B, and 1C. A year later and he has just went 13-37 in his first season at Ohio St. Do I think that means he would've failed here? I don't know. But I do think it shows that fit and resources matter.

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

BOC was more a pipe dream coach, but I do not see him being a realistic hire. He has been at UVA for a long time and I see him retiring there as long as UVA gives him what he is asking. His agents might be putting his name out there for a pay raise or more NIL, but I ultimately see him staying at UVA. I see Pollard as the much more realistic hire if we get a coach from the ACC. Skip Johnson might come depending on what we promise him, but not sure he will leave OU for State. I think we end up with Pollard, Coggin or Fitzgerald

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Pollard? Meh and happy at Duke
Johnson? Embarrassingly easy jokes on Selmon/OU
Coggin? We really missed if it gets to him
Fitz? More likely
Walter? Maybe, but he's Walter(s) here
BOC? Smoke or smoke screen
Bakich? Zero chatter there

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Not too completely get lost on a different tangent, but it is incredible how the list of potential coaches has changed in a year. If this was last year, Justin Haire would be candidate 1A, 1B, and 1C. A year later and he has just went 13-37 in his first season at Ohio St. Do I think that means he would've failed here? I don't know. But I do think it shows that fit and resources matter.

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That is a somewhat sobering thought. You just never know how any coaching change is going to play out in the long term.

Going to be fun watching fans talk themselves into some questionable hires

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Just my guess at what our potential list looks like at this moment:

1. Erik Bakich
2. Dan Fitzgerald
3. Skip Johnson
4. Chris Pollard
5. Will Coggin


Unless he is putting on the greatest smoke screen of all time, the job doesn't get past Fitzgerald. He has had people calling on his behalf for almost a month now. I do think we view him higher than Skip due to his recruiting success and his overachieving at Kansas. I think we are making a mistake not talking to Wasikowski, but it seems that is the direction we are going. I personally would value him a bit over Fitzgerald but Fitzgerald has southern recruiting ties and SEC experience at a place like us since he was an asst at LSU.

Not too completely get lost on a different tangent, but it is incredible how the list of potential coaches has changed in a year. If this was last year, Justin Haire would be candidate 1A, 1B, and 1C. A year later and he has just went 13-37 in his first season at Ohio St. Do I think that means he would've failed here? I don't know. But I do think it shows that fit and resources matter.

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Haire would have had the correct lineup in February, and so would some others hired last year. He is good with good resources it seems

I think 50% of our fans talked themselves into O’Conner or bust. The fallout could be legendary. The d!ldo of consequences rarely comes lubed.

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Originally Posted by Santiago

Haire would have had the correct lineup in February, and so would some others hired last year. He is good with good resources it seems

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Haire shows how risky mid major hires can be. I wouldn't be surprised if he is successful at Ohio State over the years though.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Haire shows how risky mid major hires can be. I wouldn't be surprised if he is successful at Ohio State over the years though.

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If OSU decided to be good in baseball, they could give him the money in a day. You are right, it might be over the years type thing to bring in the support for players and win

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Going to be fun watching fans talk themselves into some questionable hires

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This seems to be the perfect time for us to hire a new coach so if we don't hit, it will be sobering. Personally, I don't think BOC is a fit here. He would have been Bianco's replacement.

I'm fine with Fitzgerald. Hell, I'm good with Elander.