Sankey?s Letter in the gun law.....

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02-09-2018, 12:04 AM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Actually 61, no SEC commisoner has ever issued such a strong statement except to us, Ole Miss, and Arkansas. Arkansas and had sense enough to amend their law. Hopefully we do.

I'm sure we will, tbh. But it still amazes me that we continue to preemptively shoot ourselves in the foot, even in the short-term. The flag, HB 1523, and now this....Jeez. There are quieter, more diplomatic ways of doing things, but MS politicians love theatrics far too much to take the high road...
02-09-2018, 12:06 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Coach007

I beg to differ. Let's please take this to the SCOTUS.

We would lose. It would also cost millions to lose. As a Mississippi taxpayer and a MSU alum, I would prefer to spend much money on more important than things than this bs. I'm a almost dinosaur of a conservative too. Ask 61, he nphpgot me kicked off the political board for being a dinosaur conservative. I also have common sense. Enough to recognize a losing battle against comman sense when I see it. Even mu fellow traveler Justice Scalia would have agepreed with me here.
02-09-2018, 12:07 AM
starkvegasdawg

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Have they not allowed people in that have guns yet? Seems like they haven't done anything illegal yet and what's stopping them from not allowing those people in for other reasons besides having a gun on them? "oh you have a gun well I think you're drunk so I can't let you in sorry sir come back when you sober up".

Right now it is my understanding if they see a weapon on anyone attempting to enter the stadium they would be refused entry based on the fact they have a no firearms sign posted at the entrances. They can legally do that for all people who do not have an EC. If you have an EC but are intoxicated, and are discovered to have a weapon they can arrest you anywhere as that is illegal.
02-09-2018, 12:09 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Coach007

University of Utah has been allowing it well over a decade...

Are they in the SEC?
02-09-2018, 12:10 AM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Are they in the SEC?

Yeah....lets join their conference!
02-09-2018, 12:14 AM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Yeah....lets join their conference!

Well Utah is kinda close to Boise St. so...**
02-09-2018, 12:14 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Are they in the SEC?

They are in the conference that has schools from California, Washington, and Oregon. Those are some very liberal states. Kinda weird this bothers the sec more than the pac12
02-09-2018, 12:14 AM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by msstate7

They are in the conference that has schools from California, Washington, and Oregon. Those are some very liberal states. Kinda weird this bothers the sec more than the pac12

Is kinda odd isn?t it?
02-09-2018, 12:21 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I'm sure we will, tbh. But it still amazes me that we continue to preemptively shoot ourselves in the foot, even in the short-term. The flag, HB 1523, and now this....Jeez. There are quieter, more diplomatic ways of doing things, but MS politicians love theatrics far too much to take the high road...

I voted for the new flag in that vote. I hated the new design offered, but I totally understand why African-Americans hate that flag. Your flag should be a symbol that unites your entire popipulation, or at the worst doesn't alienate 40% of them. I assume HB1523 is the religious right bill. That one I support. I wouldn't force a Muslim baker to create and bake a same sex wedding cake against their will. Nor would a do that to a Christian one. I wouldn't force Jewish one to bake one featuring a Swastica. I wouldn't force a Nazi baker to bake one featuring a Star of David. I wouldn't force a atheist to bake one featuring a Cross, and I'm a devout Christian. Now if any of those already stocked and they refused to sell one to whoever, THAT I would oppose. I'm in the healthcare industry. I would never turn anyone away based on politics or religion. For one thing health care at the delivery level has no politics. For another as a Christian we are instructed to love even our enemies.
02-09-2018, 12:22 AM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Yeah....lets join their conference!

They beat Bama
02-09-2018, 12:24 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Yeah....lets join their conference!

I'd love it! I'd love it as I'd get to see USC regularly. I could even go and root for them with no reservations when they came to Oxford. That being said, they would never take us, on this issue alone. There are others.
02-09-2018, 12:25 AM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by msstate7

They are in the conference that has schools from California, Washington, and Oregon. Those are some very liberal states. Kinda weird this bothers the sec more than the pac12

It's kinda pathetic some value games over rights.
02-09-2018, 12:25 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg34

Right now it is my understanding if they see a weapon on anyone attempting to enter the stadium they would be refused entry based on the fact they have a no firearms sign posted at the entrances. They can legally do that for all people who do not have an EC. If you have an EC but are intoxicated, and are discovered to have a weapon they can arrest you anywhere as that is illegal.

As it stands now they can do it no matter the circumstances if you have a gun, and aren't law enforcement, at their discretion.
02-09-2018, 12:27 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

They are in the conference that has schools from California, Washington, and Oregon. Those are some very liberal states. Kinda weird this bothers the sec more than the pac12

They don't have people poisoning trees out there either. It just means more here, and that's not just a cute marketing slogan.
02-09-2018, 12:29 AM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Coach007

It's kinda pathetic some value games over rights.

But you don't have a right to take a gun into a place that bans them. Settled law. If it ever got to the scotus, it would hold.
02-09-2018, 12:30 AM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Coach007

It's kinda pathetic some value games over rights.

Kinda pathetic some refuse to use common sense when it comes to the 2nd amendment.
02-09-2018, 12:30 AM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by Coach007

It's kinda pathetic some value games over rights.

I'm just trying to enjoy a football game. Ya know....one could just stay their ass at home, and sit in the nude watching the game on their 20" tubed Zenith, masturbating (a sin I know...) to all the blued-steel firepower surrounding them....that's also an option right?
02-09-2018, 12:32 AM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

I voted for the new flag in that vote. I hated the new design offered, but I totally understand why African-Americans hate that flag. Your flag should be a symbol that unites your entire popipulation, or at the worst doesn't alienate 40% of them. I assume HB1523 is the religious right bill. That one I support. I wouldn't force a Muslim baker to create and bake a same sex wedding cake against their will. Nor would a do that to a Christian one. I wouldn't force Jewish one to bake one featuring a Swastica. I wouldn't force a Nazi baker to bake one featuring a Star of David. I wouldn't force a atheist to bake one featuring a Cross, and I'm a devout Christian. Now if any of those already stocked those and refused to sell one to whoever, THAT I would oppose. I'm in the healthcare industry. I would never turn anyone away based Oman politics or religion. For one thing health at the delivery level has no politics. For another as a Christian we are instructed to love even our enemies.

So what if the SEC came in and stated that the law MS passed protecting bakers will get them thrown out.... Would that prompt you to abandon that over football? Even though upheld in courts?
02-09-2018, 12:34 AM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

But you don't have a right to take a gun into a place that bans them. Settled law. If it ever got to the scotus, it would hold.

It is settled law. Has been ruled ob many many time... FL, Utah, Tx, etc etc... over and over. A public colleges can NOT ban guns! Should I list those again?
02-09-2018, 12:35 AM
PassInterference

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

1) ECL folks aren't trained anywhere near the level of LEO. Period end of discussion.

2) Every professional team and high school venue bans weapons so why can't colleges?

3) Is it worth the risk of losing the 9 figures a year that college athletics brings into the state of MS?

4) It's funny seeing the tea party argue against their own arguments used for other bills passed in prior years.

1. Debatable depending on the instructor. I was fortunate to have one that thought better practices than LE gets. LE practices more often than me, but I have better technique and safety practices.

2. Wrong. Those places can?t ban enhanced carry permitted carry.

3. The risk is overstated seeing as how the carry laws have been in place for 7 years now. The current bill that people are knee jerking over doesn?t add any additional carry privlesges.

4. Nothing to do with a party and thanks for recognizing that conservatives can have intelligent discussions instead of just doing whatever a party wants.

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