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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

In 3 years Shawn Jones is 36-133 for a 27% 3 pt percentage. He has 42% overall FG percentage. Cam Matthews in 4 years is 19-96 from 3 for a 19.8% 3 pt percentage. Therefore, Jones is better.

Like I said, y'all can think what you want. I value shot making ability. He doesn't have that. If the game is on the line, I don't want the ball in his hands. Period. That has nothing to do with his defense, his dribbling, his passing, etc. It has to do with his shooting. Plain and Simple. I'm sure there are metrics that you can pull up that make him a good offensive player, but good offensive players translate to the next level. He doesn't. Not in this era. The guy is Rodman. And Rodman wouldn't get on the floor in today's NBA. If this was 1992, Cam Matthews would be a lottery pick despite the fact that he can't shoot outside of 6 ft.

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Matthews definitely has more offensive ability than Rodman.

And who cares about the difference between 19% and 27%. Neither should ever shoot a jump shot. That stat actually proves my main frustration with Jones - he shoots way too many 3?s. Matthews has taken far fewer shots over far more minutes, because he knows that is not his game. So his shot selection is also better than Jones. Another one in Cam?s favor.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Matthews definitely has more offensive ability than Rodman.

And who cares about the difference between 19% and 27%. Neither should ever shoot a jump shot. That stat actually proves my main frustration with Jones - he shoots way too many 3?s. Matthews has taken far fewer shots over far more minutes, because he knows that is not his game. So his shot selection is also better than Jones. Another one in Cam?s favor.

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So you are comparing Matthews to the number 7 guy, who is better than Matthews.

The fact that you think he is near Rodman, a 17 HALL OF FAMER, is gd laughable. Our fans view of Cam Matthews is just 17 stupid. He is a good college defensive player. That is it. Settle the 17 down with this crap. Some of you need to watch another college game outside of ours.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

So you are comparing Matthews to the number 7 guy, who is better than Matthews.

The fact that you think he is near Rodman, a 17 HALL OF FAMER, is gd laughable. Our fans view of Cam Matthews is just 17 stupid. He is a good college defensive player. That is it. Settle the 17 down with this crap. Some of you need to watch another college game outside of ours.

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Fact. Nothing else needs to be said.

not many humans exist who could tote Rodmans jock

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

So you are comparing Matthews to the number 7 guy, who is better than Matthews.

The fact that you think he is near Rodman, a 17 HALL OF FAMER, is gd laughable. Our fans view of Cam Matthews is just 17 stupid. He is a good college defensive player. That is it. Settle the 17 down with this crap. Some of you need to watch another college game outside of ours.

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While I pretty much agree with most of what you said, you can't just say he is only a good college defensive player and that is it. That's not it, you have to factor in his rebounding, assists, steals and to be honest his leadership. He leads the team in assist, field goal %, steals and is 2nd in rebounding, that alone says he's not just a defensive player.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

So you are comparing Matthews to the number 7 guy, who is better than Matthews.

The fact that you think he is near Rodman, a 17 HALL OF FAMER, is gd laughable. Our fans view of Cam Matthews is just 17 stupid. He is a good college defensive player. That is it. Settle the 17 down with this crap. Some of you need to watch another college game outside of ours.

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I said OFFENSIVELY. He is a much better passer and ball handler than Rodman ever was.

Is he better than Rodman overall? Of course not. Rodman is the absolute easy GOAT rebounder and among them defensively. No, Matthews is not close to Rodman in those categories.