All’s well that ends well.Quote:
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All’s well that ends well.Quote:
Originally Posted by msu15
Is that 8 DL transfers?
I mean if this was year 1 and Lebby was cleaning up a 2-10 mess, I'd be stoked about this haul.
But it's year 2. Saw some swing and a misses. Really don't like that he had to learn on the job. But pieces are there for a 5+ win season. If he can't do that much, then get him out. It's really that simple. He can go back to being an OC elsewhere and evaluate talent. He'll have proven he's just not a head guy.
Some of you people would look a gift horse in the mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Yea and Troy wouldn't have lost to the Greeks if they did so themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Idgaf about winning the recruiting and transfer rankings. Wins on Saturday or gtfo. 2-10 is abysmal. Croom didn't even do that. Last guy that did actually won an SECWest and we still fired him.
People ain't gonna be happy unless dude starts ****ing winning.
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Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Well that?s some rocket science right there. If you can?t add perspective to the equation how do you evaluate anything? This is the middle of a process trying to un17 years of mismanagement. I hate to break it to you but we are not going to bring in some other teams best and brightest. If this next team wins 6 it will be one hell of a coaching job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Is their mutual interest with My'Quis Grace? Are we heating up with any corners or wr?
And if you guys have your way, we will likely be mediocre in 2026 too. Lebby has a chance to shoot up to 8+ wins in 2026 if he plays his cards right. If he is bad in 2026, THAT is when you fire him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
If you fire him next year, any progress made will be undone. Might as well get ready to do the same to the next coach in 2-3 more years. This entire situation has so very little to do with Lebby, who has just been in Starkville for over a year, and a lot more to do with the 7 years that preceded it. I hope you’re in your youth with that Amazon prime shipping results mentality.
win 5 next year and 6 or 7 in 26 and he gets an extension
We've done a great job at rebuilding the d-line! Need to finish at WR and CB now. Would certainly welcome Grace and an o-lineman as well.
I really hate the "learning on the job" angle some take against Jeff Lebby. You know what? Kirby Smart had to learn on the job when he got the Georgia job. Ryan Day had to learn on the job when he got the Ohio State job. Dan Lanning had to learn on the job when he got the Oregon job. Marcus Freeman had to learn on the job when he got the Notre Dame job. All four were BIG TIME programs who hired first time head coaches. A 5th first time head coach in the playoffs this year is Spencer Danielson at Boise State.
Kirby is a great example. Took over a 10-3 team. Kirby had 19 future NFL draft picks on that roster. They went 8-5 and lost to Vandy and GT.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
And look at him now. Six of the 8 playoff head coaches are first time head coaches or were when they got those jobs. Four of the playoff head coaches are in their 30s.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
There aren't many people complaining that he is learning on the job. Most just hope that he is learning and adjusting. Some of the things that have happened behind the scenes since the season ended are speculative at best so there is reason for concern. But equally reason for optimism.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
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Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
Unfortunately Brobi, there are some posters who are as emotional as their wives.
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Originally Posted by Cowbell
Some of the things behind the scenes are troubling?.::like what?
He's probably referring to not replacing Hutzler.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
The reality is how Lebby does is going to correlate to how he does in the portal. Specifically this class. If we look well coached and win 5-6 games at least next year he is going to be fine. If he doesn't the odds of him working out aren't very good. I really don't know what direction it's going to go in but on paper at least he has without question improved the defense. He also replaced or added help to coaches who are struggling in the form of Loadholt, Rhoads, and Dancey. As long as he addresses the rest of our needs this portal season- and at this point I have no reason to question that he won't- there is reason for optimism.
The most likely way this doesn't work is if he is Joe Moorhead 2.0 and I don't think we can completely rule that out either. But I'm optimistic that won't be the case.
I won't lie. It definitely had the feel of a typical MSU recruiting disaster where someone swoops in and steals the player from us.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Thankfully that didn't happen.
And now if we add Grace all of a sudden our front seven looks very respectable.
Tell me you are not comparing our program to the ones you just named and claim we are on equal footing!!Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Maybe not so much here, but I've seen a lot of criticism of the process of hiring Jeff Lebby and the fact that we didn't hire an experienced head coach. The fact is our history suggests that the only experienced head coaches we can actually get are coaches who are at the end of their careers or coaches who are radioactive that no one else will touch. I've always felt we were better off taking a chance on a first-time head coach than settling for what we have typically gotten when we hire an experienced head coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell