He got it twice? (Just making sure I'm reading correctly.)Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
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He got it twice? (Just making sure I'm reading correctly.)Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Yep. Had it in March, got it again in June.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Here's the most recent thing I've read on the subject, which contains links to the studies:Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/27/...-heart-damage/
Basically what I've read too. Too soon to know if any long lasting effects. Got to think there will be some for people who were sick though
Definitely still early in the game. But the thing that stuck out to me about that heart study is the age of the patients (average age 49), the prevalence and type of lingering effects (60-80% had lasting effects on their hearts that they didn't know about before getting MRIs in the study), and the fact that two-thirds of the test subjects had mild enough COVID symptoms that they recovered at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Man, how crappy is that? Recover from mild COVID like a champ only to find out months later that your heart's inflamed? Eff that, dude.
Yea I saw one study that showed mild scarring in totally asymptomatic people. But I also saw one that showed a large decrease in scar tissue after being off the vent for 3 months, signaling at least some people's issues subside with time.
Very interesting and scary. Thanks for posting that man.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
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https://tass.com/coronavirus-outbreak-in-china/1184789
That's pretty big news. Will be interesting to see how that turns out for them.
Russia gonna won the vaccine race? Are they known for medical break throughs?Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
That blows the herd immunity theory straight to hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Its easy to cure COVID when you just "disappear" the people who've got it, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah it certainly could. False positives would have to be considered though. Who knows? If you can get it twice in a few months though, a vaccine would need a booster shot about the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
That'll flatten the curve for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Russian vaccine: 9mm to head of infected.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I’m joking...
Not really
Not really. That’s anecdotal evidence. Could be a wild mutation. False positive the first or second time. Flu. Common cold. A number of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
Most medical folks believe the virus lingers in some and it's not two separate deals.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
He was symptomatic each time - so no false positives.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Lots of viruses can do that, so it wouldn't be surprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Since they probably created it, makes it easier to create a vaccine.Quote:
Originally Posted by hacker
Wait I thought it was China? Oh whatever we've always been at war with EastasiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Which ones and do they have a vaccine?Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
ETA... think back to when this just starting hitting the US. You had to show symptoms to be tested, and the overwhelming majority of tests were negative. Showing symptoms doesn't necessarily mean you didn't get a false positive. I'm sure there were a bunch of false negatives also.
Chicken pox/shingles is one. They have vaccines.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Herpes is another, does not have vaccines but does have treatments.
All have asymptomatic carriers. All can be treated, but stay in tour body and come back months, or even years later.
I'm sure there are others.
I think that I'm Typhoid Mary when it comes to Chicken Pox. I've never had it but 3 different times when I was a kid, the friend that I played with that day, came down with it that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Shingles is a form of herpes virus. You are correct that most of the herpes virus types are characterized by that ability to lay dormant. Shingles does have a vaccine as you mentioned. Respiratory viruses including coronavirus strains don't typically behave in that manner, so would be a new thing and I wouldn't suspect that to be the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
I would compare the probability of a successful vaccine to other coronavirus strains and not the behavior of the virus. I also think if enough research, money and need is there, we will eventually get one that works.
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Scary. 27-year-old professional athlete developed a heart issue from a mild case.
From ESPN article:
Rodriguez said last Sunday that his doctors told him that 10-20% of people who have had COVID-19 also have been diagnosed with myocarditis.
See that kind of long term stuff worries me.
Drs have already said he'll be fine and is expected to fully recover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg2003
He will probably do better than most since he's young and otherwise healthy, but they don't know that for certain. Viral myocarditis is no joke and the prognosis is widely variable and extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Mycarditis can result from any virus and is actually pretty common in flu and severe cold patients. Most folks recover and never even know they have heart damage. Others struggle for a few months and get better. It can be very dangerous for older patients (70+ yoa) if not treated. Often is a contributing factor to death in older patients who get the flu or severe cold virus.
Not suprising AT ALL that it presents strongly and consistently with a strong virus like SARS-Cov-2.
ETA: This is one thing that worries me about playing football in the fall. If a player gets this infection/damage they will probably recover and never even know. But there is still a chance they have temporary heart damage, get cleared to play, and then go 100% out there leading to a myocardial event. I would be more concerned about THAT than the actual coronavirus.
The days of our state being last in everything are over...
https://www.wlbt.com/2020/08/02/harv...nation-covid-/
Yikes
Yeah. And people think we're going to play football.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
MS 7 day case average is down over 10 percent from last Sunday.
Today was a good report. It'll be interesting what we have tomorrow and Tuesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Numbers vary a lot though. Last weekend, Alabama had just over 1000 new cases since the previous 24 hour report. This weekend (as of Sunday at 1 p.m.) there have been over 2000. Mobile County had over 500 of those, and they have well under 10% of the state population.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Yep. Could be a different mutation of the virus.Quote:
Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg
Isn't how a vaccine works is by getting enough people with an antibody to achieve herd immunity?Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
Yes, but sometimes you can't get full herd immunity if the vaccine isn't effective enough. The MMR vaccine is 97% effective and confers lifelong immunity. The flu vaccine is only 50% or so effective and gives you 6 months before it starts to weaken. So we'll never have full herd immunity to the flu like we can with MMR. But we do have some level of herd immunity to the flu.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Well, I watched an interview with him and he said the Drs told him he'd be fine but didn't need to try to play ball. Just telling you what he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
Herd immunity basically depends on "once you get it, you are immune for life". There is absolutely NO reason to believe that happens with this one, NONE.
This absolutely is not what herd immunity means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg