Thanks. Will officially remove myself from meltdown mode. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
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Thanks. Will officially remove myself from meltdown mode. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
If you think our recruiting is bad, you should see our pathetic fan base.
Only issue, is that fans aren't dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
It's pretty easy to see that the number of 4 star prospects we have a shot at are dwindling by the day.
It's not about getting by, it has to be about building a championship caliber team.
If we recruit well for us and coach well, we will get opportunities to compete for a title like this year from time to time. I just can't see us recruiting well enough to compete year-in, year-out in the most cut throat conference in the country. Got to capitalize this seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
To add to some of yalls melt, there is a strong rumor out there that Nakobe Dean is listening to OM very intently
Yeah and I'm not satisfied to only get 7 from this year's Ms. class. Winning can change many things. Long way to go. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Bout right. We just need to make sure we hold ours, and fill in remaining spots with good playersQuote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
Probation just don't mean what it used too.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
From the little I can glean from reading different things, Jackson is just emotional. We pitch playing time and big play potential and lack of his kind of wr on our roster and he commits our of the blue. Few weeks later OM sells him on how they put wr in the first round and he flips.
We just need the season to start. We put up points and pull a big upset and we can get some momentum again
Jackson is gone. I do think our staff is doing as good of a job as anyone could. What concerns me is the fact that a lot of what goes on in recruiting is completely out of their control. There's nothing we can do about it except win big, and see if that changes anything.
Here is what I've learned from watching Ole Miss try to win the recruiting title every year. They recruit big and then do nothing with it. The few bowls that they won with the greatest recruiting class of all time will probably be taken from them when allis said and done. It has also been my experience that if a highly rated athlete chooses to got to a school on probation, with limited scholarships, visists, and coaching experience then we PROBABLY don't need that athlete because he is following something that doesn't equate to long term success and potential. I think this is why we regularly see Ole Miss underperform even they they recruit well. Just my two cents. Moorhead seems to know what he is looking for and seems to evaluate talent well. He's given us no reason to not trust him. He's still learning but I think we are going to be just fine.
PS: if Mullen were still here this recruiting class would solidly be in the 30's right now.
Maybe. I'm not sure how you guys know this as fact though. I never pay as much attention to national ranking as sec ranking bc those are the teams we compete with. Right now we are 9th in sec... this is where we have finished 3 of the last 4 years (8th 3 years ago... pretty much same)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
If you've followed recruiting in Mississippi over the years, you'd know that there MSU kids and there are Ole Miss kids. There is nothing that we can do change that and there is nothing they can do. Even when MSU was 3-9 and 4-8 under Croom and they were better, we got in-state commits that they should've gotten for this same reason. Whoever the better program is can sway the middle but they can't land kids that grew up cheering for the other side.
If you want to be mad at a kid, your attention should be turned towards the in-State kids that are leaving to go to Bama, Auburn, FSU, and potentially UGA. Those kids are the problem and what's wrong with this class, not Dannis Jackson.
MSU has won for 9 straight years, put kids in NFL like crazy, pro bowlers, etc. losing this many in-state kids is an embarrassment considering the circumstances of our recruiting territory
We have a brand new coaching staff that is losing recruits to teams that have recently won or have played for national championships. That is not surprising and no matter what color you see through your glasses you can't really bash a kid for going to play for Georgia or other bluebloods. Hopefully Coach Moorhead and his staff establish themselves with a great season and start keeping more of these players at home.
Losing recruits to Ole Miss is much more disappointing to me. It's easy to say they are throwing money around and they probably are but I wonder how much of this goes back to our former staff being lazy and not building relationships with these players 3 years ago when they should have been. We will never pull away from Ole Miss as a program as long as we are equally sharing recruits in this state.
I would consider us an upper middle tier SEC team right now. The next couple of years on the field and on the recruiting trail will determine whether we stay at this level or move back down to our traditional level.
I hope we finish strong in recruiting but with the new early signing period late movement is not as common as it once was.
Several 4 star recruits have said if Mullen were here they wouldnt be interested. I'll try to dig up the quotes.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Gotcha. No need to dig em up... I'll take your wordQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
Bo Bounds just said that Diwan Black was transferring to IMG in Florida. How does that affect his recruitment?
Black has a -10% chance of qualifying. Would be interesting to know how he pays for that though.
My understanding is that Florida set this up for him. The advantage is he can avoid JC by going one year there and getting the academic help to qualify.....like an extra year of high school....not sure if he can play ball there but he could train.
Okay, which one of y'all is Coy Welborn?! That dude is in freak out mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg