You can blame King Bucket Coach, he was awful with recruiting as far as what you say about who we are. We are most definitely reloading. BOC > Bucket CoachQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
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You can blame King Bucket Coach, he was awful with recruiting as far as what you say about who we are. We are most definitely reloading. BOC > Bucket CoachQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We arent rebuilding- the roster will be Omaha good. Now what does have to rebuilt is the HS recruiting portion of the program. Lemon did a really good job in the portal- but the HS portion killed himQuote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
for the most part. He was a year late getting if figured out and then last year, we didn't sign any weekend starters or an ace type pitcher, which we obviously needed. We did get some really good players out of the portal though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I'll say it like this. With the money we're throwing around, my expectations are Omaha this year. Y2 and onward, natty appearance every year. In that sense Y1 does need a bit of building. But the worst rebuilding years at state moving forward need to be in Omaha anyways. No excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Just here to post that C34 was wrong. Carry on
I think part of the problem was he believed too much in the players he already had. We should have absolutely gotten another catcher in the portal with Ross coming off of Tommy John surgery. That was a major risk. He was still recovering in the fall.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlSwearengen
The first four weeks of the season are for figuring out what your players can do. And we had guys that ended up starting for us like Powell and Gatlin Sanders that didn't play much at all during the first four weeks of the season. And then he decided to let a couple of guys appear for the first time against Troy and that turned out to be a disaster.
My expectations haven't changed. We should at least be in a SR every year. I do agree that Omaha is the expectation and we should be in Omaha most years. If O'Connor wins a couple of NC's I would be very happy with his tenure as anyone else should be which I estimate to be 10-12 years if everything goes well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
I just want to also avoid what Mike Rooney was talking about earlier this year- the rock bottom WTF? seasons after we have a special season or time period. Happened under both Cohen (2015) and Lemonis (2022-2023, 2025). I mean- LSU isn't going to go from winning the NC to like 22 wins next year with a bunch of losses to random midweek teams like Air Force, Northern Kentucky, and Central Arkansas. Now if I am wrong about LSU I won't complain- LOL.
The good thing about it is- we have the NC monkey off of our back. It has been done here before now. There is no more "can we win one or can we not." Also, O'Connor has won one before as well. So, we know he is capable of winning one. I think that takes a lot of pressure off of everyone. Like, I can't imagine the pressure someone like a Link Jarrett has at Florida State or Bakich at Clemson and Van Horn probably has the most at Arkansas- he has been eliminated or lost NC's in some absolutely brutal ways or even a guy like Schlossnagle who has never won one and is essentially being measured up against college coaching legends like Augie Garrido.
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Originally Posted by Todd4State
DVH must feel the pressure because you can see it on him any time UPig even gets close.
Heads up...
Cade O'Leary leaves MSU to Florida State
After
Duke Stone left two days ago
Nationally, 6000 players in the portal! Tennessee has 19 portal entries, is the Vitello empire crumbling? 19 dudes is not just 19 dudes. These guys represent massive recruiting effort and development. Kind of breathtaking that Vitello just loses the players that were scouted, evaluated, and recruited to just pluck strangers from other rosters.
7 appearances and 6.2 innings pitched between OLeary and Stone. On paper it does not appear we lost much if anything. What was the story on those two this year? Injury? Just not good enough to be used ahead of others? FSU taking OLeary is a bit of a surprise seeing as how he threw two innings all year.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Tennessee will have a new roster next year!
Yep, this 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
O'Leary is pretty good. We wanted to keep him.Quote:
Originally Posted by No BS Dawg
Portal Hot Take on Tennessee...Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
The Portal has annihilated the value of the HS recruit for a program with a big NIL war chest?
(1) What is the value of spending months cultivating, recruiting, and kissing-up to families and players, if there is a 80% chance the kid simply will not be ready to play in year-1.
(2) If the kid does not play in Year-1, then they are butt-hurt and want to leave.
(3) If the kid is good, then they may still leave for more money or something else.
(4) Don't red-shirt anybody. Play them or Replace them.
(5) Just recruit the super-high end 14 year old's, that you won't be able to pry from Texas or Florida later. If they become a Parker Brother for the MLB draft, then you lose.
So the IQ-200 move by Vitello is to cut-bait early with the projects players. Bring in the new class and supplement with dudes that are collegiate performers.
Thus year-1 recruits are just a preferred Option on underclass performance. College baseball is for Performers and Minor League is for Projects.
Seems LSU did the same last year.
Duke Stone coming back. Has potential, wonder what kind of feedback he got from the portal?
Boom!Quote:
Originally Posted by 3dawgnight15
+8 ERA and more runs than Innings pitched. And SEC is batting +300 against. Why stop at 8 ERA? Gamecocks have two guys with mid teen ERAs. In the SEC 18 hits, 21 Runs, in 19 innings.
Yeah, head scratcher for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
South Carolina's pitching coach sucks. Now this guy may not amount to much while he is here but this is a guy Parker recruited before so I'll give him some benefit of the doubt for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Do you know who had a 8+ ERA in his 1st in college and is now a top prospect in the Mariners organization? Loo
Anybody hearing Ace Reese to the portal and headed to LSU?
Yeah there's so smoke. Hopefully it's just fog left over from all the rain.
Ben Davis withdraws from the draft and is returning.
Huge bullpen piece.
I wonder if MSU in the game for Joey Volchko
This is the Paul Skenes, Chase Burns, or Eyason of this year.
LSU fans acting like Volchko is already a Raising Canes spokesman
He is not all that impressive on the 2025 Stanford stat sheet, but stat sheets do not pitch in games. What is it about him that makes him that coveted? Potential? Nasty stuff? Just curious because this is the first time I have heard his name. Maybe I am living under a rock too.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Statistically he gives me the Thatcher Hurd vibes. He's supposed to be a top-15 draft pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by No BS Dawg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTQfufKW...pg&name=medium
Shows there is risk and danger of a bubble in Portal Pitchers. There is even a Texas State kid in the cape with an 18 ERA and 438 batting average against. Compared to this kid, I need to offer my services in the portal, there are some bust, shot-out prospects offering to take their waste-of-space to a new college.
Even a 100 hitting SS from Purdue. This dude should be issuing a public apology to Purdue Coaches and Fans, not flaunting portal availability
Great stuff, Federalist. 100 mph says it all. Appreciate the knowledge and I agree with you about some guys in the portal. Some of these players are getting bad advice or have a seriously overinflated value of their abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Looks like Hickson, the pitcher from Rice, is in the boat. We will see what happens with him in the draft.
One of the most talented staffs we've had in a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
I'm assuming he'll probably be one of our 3 weekend starters if he makes it to campus?
Depending on the draft, this pitching staff has the potential to be downright filthy. Very, very talented staff. Keep working BOC and staff!
That is a big pickup.
Like others have said, this will be one of the more consequential drafts for us in recent memory. A lot of pieces that we need to make it campus.
Yep. Lose 2-3 pieces it?s ok depending of course. Lose 6-7 guys? Really hurts the rosterQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I?m hoping most go the Ben Davis route. Why go in the 15th round and take a meager bonus when you could play SEC ball in palace with a good NIL package? That was huge for us and more need to do that
I am just enjoying the Baseball Portal National Championship race.Quote:
Originally Posted by No BS Dawg
I would put a banner in the outfield, "2025 Portal National Championship".... Then you worry about the draft.
I heard keenum ordered a banner that he calls the "Portal Governor's cup - We Own the Sip"Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Lolz, good one. Instead of a banner, he'd instead opt for billboards across the state (I'm joking, but not really).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Maybe the stars will align and we'll get lucky in the draft....Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
If we do, holy hell we gon be good.
If they gel, gotta team build once we get them on campus. That said this iteration of msu baseball will have a great deal of potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
True, but i think our combination of staff, fan support (as in cheering fans at every game) , facilities, and program legacy, etc., gelling will come easy...or at least easier than at places that have to fake it in 1 or more of those categories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper