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Originally Posted by DEDawg

I was extremely excited for Jans lol

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Me too.

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

To be honest, I'm not sure what other coordinators are really in contention. I thought you more than any other poster was talking about how our job wasn't a hard job and so dropping down to a coordinator kind of screams "hard job".

I'll get on board with Lebby, but he was way down the list when this process got started.

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Hiring the top offensive coordinator in the country who has a history of QB development is a coup not a settle.

Our job is a great job. If you don't believe me, just look at our last 3 ADs. They are at Alabama, Auburn and Florida.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Boring and stale does not matter. The only thing that matters is wins.

Our best basketball coaches have been Stansbury and Jans, hardly guys who exude excitement.

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This is not true. Our fans don't want to be the Iowa of the SEC. Iowa won 10 games this year and they're one of the biggest jokes in college football because their offense was the same as ours this year.

Imagine the Egg Bowl intro in 2025.

"High flying and exciting Ole Miss vs boring and blue collar ground and pound Mississippi State. Thursday at 6:30 on ESPN".

Well, I liked the Joe Mo hire initially, and did not like the Leach hire. So, maybe it's a good thing if we hire someone I don't like. You never really know how things will shake out. I'm more than willing to admit that much.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

This is not true. Our fans don't want to be the Iowa of the SEC. Iowa won 10 games this year and they're one of the biggest jokes in college football because their offense was the same as ours this year.

Imagine the Egg Bowl intro in 2025.

"High flying and exciting Ole Miss vs boring and blue collar ground and pound Mississippi State. Thursday at 6:30 on ESPN".

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Sure you'd prefer to be putting up points. No question. But if "looking pretty" is more important than winning , we'll have to disagree. Hell in tech and ten we lost to uga 42-35 w Tony shell flinging it all over the field. That what you prefer??

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Originally Posted by confucius say

But it was Selmon who liked Sumrall.

Keenum isn't running the search behind closed doors.

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Selmon does like Sumrall. Lebby as well. We tried to hire Briles last year as OC, the former ties to Baylor is not an issue for Lebby with us either.

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Originally Posted by smootness

You?re insane if you think Jans excited the fanbase upon being hired.

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Hahaha. Okay buddy.

Man it sucks about Lashlee. If he was at any other G5 besides SMU I think he would be interested

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

This is not true. Our fans don't want to be the Iowa of the SEC. Iowa won 10 games this year and they're one of the biggest jokes in college football because their offense was the same as ours this year.

Imagine the Egg Bowl intro in 2025.

"High flying and exciting Ole Miss vs boring and blue collar ground and pound Mississippi State. Thursday at 6:30 on ESPN".

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I would love to have a boring 10 win season while everyone else laughed at us. They could laugh as they got their asses beat. I'm fine with that.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Sure you'd prefer to be putting up points. No question. But if "looking pretty" is more important than winning , we'll have to disagree. Hell in tech and ten we lost to uga 42-35 w Tony shell flinging it all over the field. That what you prefer??

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You and 34 think we suck as a program so wouldn't you prefer to at least be entertained. We are always going to win at least 4 games.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

You and 34 think we suck as a program so wouldn't you prefer to at least be entertained. We are always going to win at least 4 games.

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I didn't say we suck. I think it's a really hard job. History bears that out. Sorry if you disagree w that. I'll take the ten wins over looking pretty. Considering that's happened once EVER most people would be on my side.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

I would love to have a boring 10 win season while everyone else laughed at us. They could laugh as they got their asses beat. I'm fine with that.

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Yeah, that's an odd hill to stand on. I'll take 10 SEC wins by any means necessary. Lol

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

You and 34 think we suck as a program so wouldn't you prefer to at least be entertained. We are always going to win at least 4 games.

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Been way more years we won't 4 or less than won ten. So I'll stick w my point. Give me wins.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Sure you'd prefer to be putting up points. No question. But if "looking pretty" is more important than winning , we'll have to disagree. Hell in tech and ten we lost to uga 42-35 w Tony shell flinging it all over the field. That what you prefer??

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I prefer winning 56-10 to 35-0. In this day and age it absolutely matters. Especially when you're trying to sell a product to fans it matters.

Let's say we lose to Alabama 45-42 then all of a sudden you have the media talking about how close we played Alabama. Compared to 40-17.

MSU's administrators don't get it and never have because they don't know how to sell anything other than baseball.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Hiring the top offensive coordinator in the country who has a history of QB development is a coup not a settle.

Our job is a great job. If you don't believe me, just look at our last 3 ADs. They are at Alabama, Auburn and Florida.

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Sounds like a great stepping stone.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

I would love to have a boring 10 win season while everyone else laughed at us. They could laugh as they got their asses beat. I'm fine with that.

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That's only happened once for us since 1980. The issue is we win 10 games and our program still gets run down. It's just not a sustainable way for us to have major success.

Scoring as many points as possible is though. It gives us a much better chance of having a special season.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Been way more years we won't 4 or less than won ten. So I'll stick w my point. Give me wins.

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You're trying to make this about wins and losses.

I'm making it wins vs wins. 10 win seasons with a high scoring offense is preferable to 10 wins with a boring offense.

Michigan State just hired Jonathan Smith. Hopefully, we are the next MSU that hires today.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

You're trying to make this about wins and losses.

I'm making it wins vs wins. 10 win seasons with a high scoring offense is preferable to 10 wins with a boring offense.

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We aren't winning 9-10 games with a boring offense so their point is moot.

I'm all for 10 wins and whatever it takes to get there but what is more likely in the SEC, you win 10 by averaging 24 and giving up 20 or win 10 because you average 35 and give up 30? No matter who the coach is or what they run, there will be days where your O $hits the bed and there will be days when your D $hits the bed. The difference is, when the D gives up those points, they don't come off the board and while your O may look dead, it could awaken at any time and go off. But, you have to have an O capable of doing that. Look no further than Auburn 2021. If Mullen were the coach and we were down 28-3, there is no doubt that game would have been over in the 2nd quarter.