Please stop testing athletes for Covid

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

As said above, that the vaccine must prevent 100% of infections and stop 100% of transmission to have utility.

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That?s not my words, that was basically the definition PRIOR to this new flu vaccine. It changed, which I proved. I specifically State that NOTHING is 100%. Either you can?t read or choose to overlook the truth, which is a very typical thing for a democrat to do.

Fallacy -
a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.

I didn?t mistake it, I showed proof that the definition changed.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

This is correct, that fallacy was by 662 and others. your posts have stuck to the position that just because I don't fully agree with your position that I'm an idiot.

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You don?t have to nor should you fully agree with most people.
Also, I don?t think that you are an idiot. I think that you are a useful idiot. A person with good intentions that because of a very idealistic POV is easily manipulated into supporting causes that seem good and excuses the underlying political agenda as a means to an end. They?re exploited for having good nature.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Pretty big gap there, right?

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I think Manchin is basically just left of center. I'd say if Manchin is Missouri, Q is at least Nevada

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Lol. He?s speaking of Quaoarsking. It?s hard to believe anyone in America could take up for the Marxists democrats at this point tho. It?s just mind boggling.

FWIW I consider myself a conservative, not Republican. Republicans align more with my thinking than Dems, but I don?t trust them either. I don?t trust any politician, government agency or media outlet. If any of them tell us something I always look deeper into it to confirm it?s true. Very rarely do you get the full truth from any of them.

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😂 for a second that threw me a curve ball. Caught me skimming as I was getting dressed for church.

I?ve lived long enough to realize that in my experience, neither side really cares much for the well being of the American people. There?s a reason neither side really gets much done even when they have the control. Both sides spend a large majority of their efforts dividing us into a ven diagram that allows them to disregard the populous as a whole.

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Originally Posted by Dak Holliday

😂 for a second that threw me for a curve ball. Caught me skimming as I was getting dressed for church.

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Haha? nah I don?t trust either side, it?s just that the democrats are openly evil. Literally Satan?s little spawn deceivers. I would say that most of the 10-15 voters they have left are as you say, useful idiots. Willingly deceived.

At least you can find a little truth in a Republican at times lol.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So if you aren't for Covid vaccines, you're anti- all vaccines?

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I'm against all vaccines. I was made to take the oral polio when I was 6 or so and I've had about 3 or so tetanus shots in my life when I've stepped on rusty nail or cut myself on something rusty. I've always thought flu shot was a bunch of bullshit too.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

That?s not my words, that was basically the definition PRIOR to this new flu vaccine. It changed, which I proved. I specifically State that NOTHING is 100%. Either you can?t read or choose to overlook the truth, which is a very typical thing for a democrat to do.

Fallacy -
a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.

I didn?t mistake it, I showed proof that the definition changed.

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Dude, no one cares what some scientifically-illiterate English major wrote down as the dictionary definition of the word "vaccine". Your fallacy is your ARGUMENTS that a shot has no utility unless it is 100% effective.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Haha? nah I don?t trust either side, it?s just that the democrats are openly evil. Literally Satan?s little spawn deceivers. I would say that most of the 10-15 voters they have left are as you say, useful idiots. Willingly deceived.

At least you can find a little truth in a Republican at times lol.

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Be careful using the term evil as a generalization. I honestly believe that many on both sides are misinformed, but the leadership on both sides leave much to be desired. The political machine is not a friend to the citizen on any side. I honestly believe that the political stance of each side must be of conflicting nature. This time, you get to be virtuous. Next time, I get to be. It helps draw the dividing lines that rob us of our power to make our government actually work for all of us.

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Originally Posted by Dak Holliday

You don?t have to nor should you fully agree with most people.
Also, I don?t think that you are an idiot. I think that you are a useful idiot. A person with good intentions that because of a very idealistic POV is easily manipulated into supporting causes that seem good and excuses the underlying political agenda as a means to an end. They?re exploited for having good nature.

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Lol, that is really damn far from what I believe. I strongly adhere to the principle that most of us are shit out of luck. That you jumped to that completely wrong conclusion does tell us something about how exploitable you are however.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I think Manchin is basically just left of center. I'd say if Manchin is Missouri, Q is at least Nevada

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Ironically, Manchin is my favorite senator (it's a love-hate relationship), as he may have the highest "Value over Replacement" for any single member of Congress in US history. West Virginia was Trump's 2nd best state, and more Republican than any state is Democratic.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Ironically, Manchin is my favorite senator (it's a love-hate relationship), as he may have the highest "Value over Replacement" for any single member of Congress in US history. West Virginia was Trump's 2nd best state, and more Republican than any state is Democratic.

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That's pretty surprising to me. Perhaps I read you wrong... this would be the 2nd or 3rd time I've been wrong on this board hah

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Dude, no one cares what some scientifically-illiterate English major wrote down as the dictionary definition of the word "vaccine". Your fallacy is your ARGUMENTS that a shot has no utility unless it is 100% effective.

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But you?re ball face lying. How?s that for fallacy?

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Ironically, Manchin is my favorite senator (it's a love-hate relationship), as he may have the highest "Value over Replacement" for any single member of Congress in US history. West Virginia was Trump's 2nd best state, and more Republican than any state is Democratic.

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The problem of course is that currently the Dems are letting the entire party be defined by Manchin. It was obviously the wrong tactic from the beginning, and it is past time for Biden to switch gears. Stop making compromise-filled sausage bills that don't even pass and start pushing bills the rest of the party can gladly stand behind, and let the rest vote them down. Meanwhile, use Executive power boldly and without apologizing.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

But you?re ball face lying. How?s that for fallacy?

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I'm not lying and have no need to.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

That's pretty surprising to me. Perhaps I read you wrong... this would be the 2nd or 3rd time I've been wrong on this board hah

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He?s 100% far left on the this topic. You read him correctly this time lol. Now maybe he?s more center on other topics, but he?s certainly not on this.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

I'm not lying and have no need to.

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I said your ball face lying because you are lol. I specifically state nothing is 100%. You keep lying & saying I said otherwise. I cannot help what a definition states & how they changed it to fit this new shot because they new it wasn?t going to work like they had promised. That isn?t on me.

Anyways, stop with your fallacy & HailState 😁

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

That's just not true. Breakthrough infections are possible (as with any vaccine), but it absolutely makes you less likely to get it.

https://i.imgur.com/ZSKOcYF.png
Source: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...vaccine-status

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That blue line is pointing north the last 3 weeks

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Lol, that is really damn far from what I believe. I strongly adhere to the principle that most of us are shit out of luck. That you jumped to that completely wrong conclusion does tell us something about how exploitable you are however.

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Sure thing. Useful idiots typically struggle seeing that they?re being used. Maybe your intelligence and self awareness rival one another. It?s fine that you are a fool.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

I said your ball face lying because you are lol. I specifically state nothing is 100%. You keep lying & saying I said otherwise. I cannot help what a definition states & how they changed it to fit this new shot because they new it wasn?t going to work like they had promised. That isn?t on me.

Anyways, stop with your fallacy & HailState 😁

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So, you agree what a vaccine can do a whole lot of good even if it is "leaky", that some vaxed can still catch or transmit the disease?

Newsflash bud, they changed it because the definition was always scientifically wrong, it's just that Noone noticed or cared before. There was no "need" to change it to match some incorrect perception that the covid Vax isn't a vaccine. (Which by the way is part of the fallacy you are calling me a liar for pointing out). Here you are repeating the fallacy that you called me a liar over!

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

I mean, I think you understand about small samples vs. large samples, don't you?

And it seems like just a few weeks ago we had a very prominent case (Aaron Rodgers) of a player lying about his vaccination status (and therefore breaking the NFL's rules about the behavior and masking of unvaccinated players), so how can we even trust whether that 24 number is true?

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what percentage of omi cases in Europe are from vaccinated persons?

When 75% of eligible persons in America are vaccinated and Covid is "spreading like wildfire" according to Fauci, it's not just unvaccinated cases. There are not enough unvaccinated persons left to drive the numbers as high as they are going right now.

The vaccine has its purposes. No doubt. But preventing infection is not one of them.

(I'm vaccinated and had Covid).