MSU vs USM Game 1 thread

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Find a way to win the next two, and today will be a minor hiccup

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We won't be winning the next 2 unless our offense wakes up.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

We won't be winning the next 2 unless our offense wakes up.

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Baseball's funny, all it might take is stringing 2 hits together and it can become contagious

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

The problem is that this essentially happened 2 days ago as well against a very average UAB team. We were lucky as heck to win a 3-2 game that we only managed 3 hits in. Of course then it was just blown off as Ashcraft being 'on'. Apparently every pitcher we face not from YSU is on so far.

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Not really. Ashcraft struck out more of our hitters (7K's in 5.2 IP compared to 4 today in 10 IP and we only struck one more time the rest of the game against UAB) and he is a legit SEC player and MLB prospect. We outhit USM today whereas against UAB they outhit us. As it has been said repeatedly in this thread the problem with our offense today was approach and that's really what it comes down to. The reality about baseball is if you make hard contact eventually the odds will fall in your favor and some of the balls that are right at someone or someone makes a SC Top 10 highlight will drop in and find grass. Not great results either way- but two totally different ways.


From a baseball standpoint I'm not sure that I would say that we were lucky- UAB made some mistakes in the field and we made them pay. To me, that's playing good baseball and because we were better defensively that was the difference in that particular game.


I'm just not sure if the problem today was because being aggressive was made an emphasis or if we were pressing a little bit.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Baseball's funny, all it might take is stringing 2 hits together and it can become contagious

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Exactly.

Let's watch more than 5 games to make a determination. Baseball isn't football. I said 36-20. But I like our team for the most part. Halter is an out at the plate. Other than that, we don't have a for sure out at this point.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

We won't be winning the next 2 unless our offense wakes up.

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Let?s shut down the program. We lost a game.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Let?s shut down the program. We lost a game.

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Naw man. First you have to fire Lemonis and then Cohen cause he f***ed up the hire and is inept as AD. THEN if that don't work may need to consider shutting down the program.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Some of you need to back away and STFU. It?s week one. Our hitting will be fine once we see game pitching a few weeks. We crushed several balls that didn?t fall. We didn?t stand up there K?ing. If the pitcher is filling up the zone, you?re more aggressive. We shouldn?t need to wear that 85 mph guy down. We should pound him and we will once we get settled in.

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I don't think anyone is melting. Actually one of the best discussion threads on here in a long time. Until you roll in paddling people and putting them in the corner. Simmer down Francis.

Homedawg said it and it bears repeating. This ain't football. It's a long season and games will be lost. The guys have to learn the coaches and vice versa. Game action is where the exposure happens to determine what players are best suited for which roles. Guys proving what they can and can't do. Staff and players have to learn.

I can see Lemonis giving this veteran lineup some latitude early on esp after the first wkd. Giving them some rope allows him to see how they react. See which guys he can give more rope to and those he has to reign in and control a little more. It's a natural of squad building that new coaches and players go thru.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Homedawg said it and it bears repeating. This ain't football. It's a long season and games will be lost. The guys have to learn the coaches and vice versa. Game action is where the exposure happens to determine what players are best suited for which roles. Guys proving what they can and can't do. Staff and players have to learn.

I can see Lemonis giving this veteran lineup some latitude early on esp after the first wkd. Giving them some rope allows him to see how they react. See which guys he can give more rope to and those he has to reign in and control a little more. It's a natural of squad building that new coaches and players go thru.

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Good post.

If our O in football hadn't looked so damn pitiful and inept in our losses I would have more confidence in Moorhead. Haven't given up on him yet but no one can argue the point totals in our losses were really bad for such an experienced team. No reason not to score in at least the teens in all of our 4 losses ... including Bama.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

I don't think anyone is melting. Actually one of the best discussion threads on here in a long time. Until you roll in paddling people and putting them in the corner. Simmer down Francis.

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I agree... Good solid back and forth going on here to me. It's been mostly constructive discussion. Nobody's happy and nobody should be, but I don't see anyone jumping off a ledge here.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

I don't think anyone is melting. Actually one of the best discussion threads on here in a long time. Until you roll in paddling people and putting them in the corner. Simmer down Francis.

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There?s people melting left and right.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

There?s people melting left and right.

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Not really.

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Originally Posted by I seen it dawg

Homedawg said it and it bears repeating. This ain't football. It's a long season and games will be lost. The guys have to learn the coaches and vice versa. Game action is where the exposure happens to determine what players are best suited for which roles. Guys proving what they can and can't do. Staff and players have to learn.

I can see Lemonis giving this veteran lineup some latitude early on esp after the first wkd. Giving them some rope allows him to see how they react. See which guys he can give more rope to and those he has to reign in and control a little more. It's a natural of squad building that new coaches and players go thru.

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good post.

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Originally Posted by sleepy dawg

I agree... Good solid back and forth going on here to me. It's been mostly constructive discussion. Nobody's happy and nobody should be, but I don't see anyone jumping off a ledge here.

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Exactly, we've only scored in 1 inning out of our last 18 on offense. Nobody should be melting but nobody should be happy about it either.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

There?s people melting left and right.

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The only melting going on is you melting about people melting.

Showing discontent and concern does not equal melting.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

The only melting going on is you melting about people melting.

Showing discontent and concern does not equal melting.

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5 games into the season, it’s melting or stupid if you want to go that route. People act like we don’t do this every year. FL has lost a couple already. Every team loses in baseball. I’ll wait more than the first week to lose it over hitting balls hard at people and not scoring. Some folks don’t get that apparently. We aren’t a bad hitting team. It’s simply early season ball.

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

5 games into the season, it’s melting or stupid if you want to go that route. People act like we don’t do this every year. FL has lost a couple already. Every team loses in baseball. I’ll wait more than the first week to lose it over hitting balls hard at people and not scoring. Some folks don’t get that apparently. We aren’t a bad hitting team. It’s simply early season ball.

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Could we say you're "melting" on basketball? We're solidly a tourney team, and if you have stopped blasting howland, you just stopped.

Halter is really struggling both with bat and in field....

Also, it’s not like we didn’t hit some balls well. Two months from now Westburg and Allen may have hit back to back home runs on those two earning track shots. We just were unlucky today with where we hit some of them.