The Governor's Cup

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I have talked to a much trusted source and on good authority, (my bucket in the garage), that State will sweep Auburn, UK, OM, and Mizzou to secure a last minute host spot. Lemonis will save his job and the dugout bucket for another season.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Idk if you've been paying attention, but not a lot positive has happened for Mississippi State Athletics for the last 4 years or so. Of course there's negativity. We absolutely suck in 2 of the big 3 sports.

Lemonis hating him actually makes me like him more. I want the opposite of whatever Lemonis thinks. He hates him because unlike Steve who is too busy trying to be Lemon's bff, Faulk and Hadad actually say what's happening is unacceptable.

Does he have flaws? Sure. He's got a short temper and can't take criticism. But give me him over the sunshine cult every day of the week. I just think it's weird to obsessively hate the guy like an ex gf but yall do yall

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You can't go on a podcast and tell people two years a year ago that a guy is going to be fired and then when it doesn't happen expect to be taken seriously.

And if you do put that out there- you better be right when you put it out.

What happens if Lebby decides that Bumphis sucks as a WR coach and fires or demoted him? Then all of a sudden Robbie will turn on Lebby and how is that good for MSU in any way shape or form?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

What happens if Lebby decides that Bumphis sucks as a WR coach and fires or demoted him? Then all of a sudden Robbie will turn on Lebby and how is that good for MSU in any way shape or form?

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Another weak argument with hypotheticals that's based on zero proof or indication that'll happen.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Another weak argument with hypotheticals that's based on zero proof or indication that'll happen.

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I mean they did turn on Leach when Leach "wouldn't hire" Bumphis. Which turned out to be false because it came out that Leach offered him RB coach but he turned it down. However, Brian has softened his stance on that in the last year. He even was critical of Bumphis in the first portal window. Again, realizes he's very fortunate to have the gig he now has and has stopped being so divisive.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

You can't go on a podcast and tell people two years a year ago that a guy is going to be fired and then when it doesn't happen expect to be taken seriously.

And if you do put that out there- you better be right when you put it out.

What happens if Lebby decides that Bumphis sucks as a WR coach and fires or demoted him? Then all of a sudden Robbie will turn on Lebby and how is that good for MSU in any way shape or form?

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Well, truth be told, he probably should have been fired 2 years ago after missing the SEC tourney two years in a row but I understand why he wasn't. If you are going to do a sports podcast though you are going to have to give opinions whether they are agreed with or not. I'm just glad we have some MSU podcasts available because I would rather hear discussion about what's going on with State athletics than.99% of everything else going on in the sports world. If we don't start improving in some of our sports though the apathy may get to the point where nobody is interested in hearing about MSU sports anymore. Then nobody will have to worry about anything our media guys say.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I mean they did turn on Leach when Leach "wouldn't hire" Bumphis. Which turned out to be false because it came out that Leach offered him RB coach but he turned it down. However, Brian has softened his stance on that in the last year. He even was critical of Bumphis in the first portal window. Again, realizes he's very fortunate to have the gig he now has and has stopped being so divisive.

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Offering a WR coach with zero experience coaching RBs to be your RB coach was dumb.

They give their opinions and sometimes they're opinions people don't like. Give me that over not giving opinions at all.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Another weak argument with hypotheticals that's based on zero proof or indication that'll happen.

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That's what happened with Leach when he offered Bumphis the running back job that Chad turned down.

So yeah- I'd say I have proof that there is a good chance that would happen if Lebby fired Bumphis.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Well, truth be told, he probably should have been fired 2 years ago after missing the SEC tourney two years in a row but I understand why he wasn't. If you are going to do a sports podcast though you are going to have to give opinions whether they are agreed with or not. I'm just glad we have some MSU podcasts available because I would rather hear discussion about what's going on with State athletics than.99% of everything else going on in the sports world. If we don't start improving in some of our sports though the apathy may get to the point where nobody is interested in hearing about MSU sports anymore. Then nobody will have to worry about anything our media guys say.

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Correct on all counts

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

That's what happened with Leach when he offered Bumphis the running back job that Chad turned down.

So yeah- I'd say I have proof that there is a good chance that would happen if Lebby fired Bumphis.

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Nah you're operating in a world of "maybe's" and "possibilities" because you just don't like them from their time at Gene's Page. It's okay, you don't have to like them. Feel free to keep throwing shots every chance you get. I just think it's silly.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Well, truth be told, he probably should have been fired 2 years ago after missing the SEC tourney two years in a row but I understand why he wasn't. If you are going to do a sports podcast though you are going to have to give opinions whether they are agreed with or not. I'm just glad we have some MSU podcasts available because I would rather hear discussion about what's going on with State athletics than.99% of everything else going on in the sports world. If we don't start improving in some of our sports though the apathy may get to the point where nobody is interested in hearing about MSU sports anymore. Then nobody will have to worry about anything our media guys say.

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But if you are media you can just throw out there that someone is going to be fired without damn good sources and if you do throw it out there you better be right.

In the meantime Rosebowl was saying that Lemonis wasn't going to be fired. And you had people here saying that Lemonis wasn't going to be fired. So who had better sources?

He wasn't offering opinion. He was stating it as fact. And was wrong.

he has egg on the face due to being wrong

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Nah you're operating in a world of "maybe's" and "possibilities" because you just don't like them from their time at Gene's Page. It's okay, you don't have to like them. Feel free to keep throwing shots every chance you get. I just think it's silly.

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So you think StarkVegasSteve and me are both making up the same story?

The only "maybe" here is that Robbie learns a lesson. But that's a much bigger "maybe" than the "maybe" you just accused me of.

You are free to like Robbie. I mean people like wresting and it's fake BS too. At least most of the people that like wrestling realize it's fake though. You should apply the same when listening to Robbie.

good point

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

But if you are media you can just throw out there that someone is going to be fired without damn good sources and if you do throw it out there you better be right.

In the meantime Rosebowl was saying that Lemonis wasn't going to be fired. And you had people here saying that Lemonis wasn't going to be fired. So who had better sources?

He wasn't offering opinion. He was stating it as fact. And was wrong.

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He was offering his opinion as fact. Inexperienced journalists do this. And when you're a journalist who has a podcast people are going to take your word as fact. Because they believe you are well sourced on it. Faulk is just not well sourced, which goes back to his strained relationship with the athletic dept. Lemonis hates him. Jans doesn't like him. Lebby doesn't think very highly of him and Selmon doesn't think very highly of him. And it goes back to the fan part of things. He's a fan before a journalist. And this is something that Hadad and Robertson have, to their credit, figured out. You either have to be like Robertson and sunshine pump and toe the company line or you have to be like Hadad and present the opposite point of view enough to seem unbiased. That is how you stay in the good graces of the university. This is why they don't let fans in press conferences because fans are emotionally invested in the outcomes.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

So you think StarkVegasSteve and me are both making up the same story?

The only "maybe" here is that Robbie learns a lesson. But that's a much bigger "maybe" than the "maybe" you just accused me of.

You are free to like Robbie. I mean people like wresting and it's fake BS too. At least most of the people that like wrestling realize it's fake though. You should apply the same when listening to Robbie.

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I don't think the story is BS.

I think you definitively saying they would turn on Lebby for firing Bump is BS. Because it is. You don't know that.

Thanks for your permission. It means a lot to me.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I don't think the story is BS.

I think you definitively saying they would turn on Lebby for firing Bump is BS. Because it is. You don't know that.

Thanks for your permission. It means a lot to me.

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dam, talk about panties in a wad. you aite?

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

I don't think the story is BS.

I think you definitively saying they would turn on Lebby for firing Bump is BS. Because it is. You don't know that.

Thanks for your permission. It means a lot to me.

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History is a pretty good indicator most of the time.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

He was offering his opinion as fact. Inexperienced journalists do this. And when you're a journalist who has a podcast people are going to take your word as fact. Because they believe you are well sourced on it. Faulk is just not well sourced, which goes back to his strained relationship with the athletic dept. Lemonis hates him. Jans doesn't like him. Lebby doesn't think very highly of him and Selmon doesn't think very highly of him. And it goes back to the fan part of things. He's a fan before a journalist. And this is something that Hadad and Robertson have, to their credit, figured out. You either have to be like Robertson and sunshine pump and toe the company line or you have to be like Hadad and present the opposite point of view enough to seem unbiased. That is how you stay in the good graces of the university. This is why they don't let fans in press conferences because fans are emotionally invested in the outcomes.

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Rosebowl at least goes to practices and games moreso than Robbie too. Like him or not Rosebowl works harder than Robbie.

You are spot on about everything.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

History is a pretty good indicator most of the time.

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Lebby has fired Bump before? Damn I must've missed that.